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On Dr. Eugene Mallove's confrontation with Jed Rothwell, and how the former got rid of his partnership with the latter
We should perhaps explain that Rothwell's "loathing of Correa", as he puts it in one of the emails quoted below, dates back to their very first encounter, which took place at the 1998 Cold Fusion and New Energy Symposium in Manchester, NH. At this symposium, Paulo lent 15 minutes of his own presentation-time to David Marett, allowing the latter to present a disconfirmation (later published in IE #22) of Ohmori and Mizuno's claim of LENR excess heat in their so-called "Water Glow Arc Discharge" experiments. Since Rothwell was an ardent supporter of Ohmori and Mizuno, he took explosive, red-faced exception to Marett's presentation - whose evil he blamed on Paulo - thus drawing Paulo into a loud and almost-physical confrontation. From then on, he took it upon himself to publicly decry Anything Correa.
Subject: Re: Unbelievable!
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:35:40 -0400
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo and Alexandra Correa
CC: Uri Soudak
Dear Paulo,
>Dear Gene -
I am at a loss, appalled and near anger at what I have read today and
follows below. This was brought to my attention by an overseas contact
(you do not know him), and is a very recent intervention by Jed Rothwell
(25th May, on the Vortex list), in an exchange with Kooistra, that reads-
"My comments were about products that various people claim they have, which
supposedly produce 5 to 100 watts heat or electricity reliably, with little
or no background input. These people complain they cannot get funded. I
tell them they should market the product in various ways that will quickly
bring in pots of money and solve their problems with the Patent Office, the
courts and the APS. They become very upset with me. I gave up talking with
them years ago. I won't mention names, except Correa, who does not monitor
this channel. He attacked me in a formal presentation. Fortunately for him
it was not recorded. There were a few investors and businessmen there, who
were even more appalled than I was. At least I knew what was coming.
Frankly, I do not believe these claims anymore. I cannot imagine anyone who
so smart he could invent something like that, but so stupid he would sit on
it and starve to death, when he could make millions overnight."
The first question I have for you is: did you know about this?
Yes, I knew about this and was EXTREMELY angry with Jed when he made that remark. And I have many times considered ways of separating from him, particularly following remarks such as he made on Vortex (which is a cesspool of other nonsense too, as you know, apart from some good things that do appear.) He was angry with me for my enthusiasm for your work as expressed in my editorial, but I told him off in firm terms. I know that he is as pig-headed about his ideas as the worst skeptic, AND he veers quite closely to their ideology on many occasions. He recently bluntly told me that it was "nonsense" for me to suggest that many laws in physics are fundamentally wrong. Also, he glibly asserted that to suggest -- as I had -- that the HIV causes AIDS hypothesis might well be flawed, was stupid.
[Incidentally, by observing the recent snake-like goading by Kooistra of Jed onVortex, it is clear that Kooistra is trying to stir up trouble on many fronts. It is Kooistra's way of attacking Infinite Energy obliquely.]
So, I no longer spend any energy trying to correct him. I let him make a fool of himself on his own. I have found it IMPOSSIBLE to prevent him from occasionally making these extremely hurtful and irrational outbursts -- no matter how many times I have warned him against that. Fortunately, they are less frequent. I have learned to live with it and also feel that it is better in some sense to have him under partial control, rather than as an outside agent attacking Infinite Energy. That said, he is speaking only for himself, of course, not for me, despite his use of our e-mail address attached to his name. His "saving grace," if you will, is that he is ultimately convinced by experimental evidence. He has a very, very weak understanding of physics and this is dangerous, to be sure. On the other hand, he always asserts that he IS weak in physics theory.
>I must
suppose that you did not. The next I have is: is this guy still with your
organization?
He is a share holder in Cold Fusion Technology, Inc -- about 20 shares out of a total of approx 97 shares issued. I have 20, Entenmann has 27, the estate of Chris Tinsley has 20, A.C. Clarke 5, and miscellaneous shares -- another approximately 5.
> He is a cancer.
I would describe him more as an "Ugly Pimple" that will dry up -- not a cancer -- who very often can write some very good things -- when he is not trying to discuss what he knows so little about, such as when he attacks Mills, you, or Mitch Swartz. Also, he has out of his own pocket GIVEN some tens of thousands of dollars to individual CF researchers just because he thought their work needed assistance. He lives simply and he always will. His house is very modest even though he is a self-made millionaire in the computer field. (He founded Microtel, a small company, privately held that does telephone accounting. He is an excellent computer programmer.) His wife is a Japanese artist. He is not a money grubber. Even though he is a liberal Democrat in his politics he has a strong ideology of capitalistic success -- i.e. he believes that successful commercial enterprise is a measure of a technology's success. He further understands, better than most, the difficulty that all new technologies -- even mundane ones -- have in changing the market place. Jed's ancestry is from England via Bermuda but his mother's side is Jewish, so you can get an understanding of his background. He grew up in the Washington, DC area. Jed's grandfather founded the X-Acto knife company, which you may know of.
>He is an expert in everything and in
nothing. And distorts facts with the ease of a soap peddler. He lies by
saying I attacked him in a formal presentation.
I reviewed the video tape and told him that he had, indeed, made a great mistake. His assertion on Vortex was that you made a possibly actionable attack on him. He did not use the word "actionable, " but it was implicit. Later he denied that that was his intent. It may not have been his intent, or he changed his mind.
>His 'fortunately' is a
veiled threat. His unforgivable cowardice shows in the 'Correa does not
monitor this channel'.
Yes, that was particularly disgusting and stupid.
>He takes our public argument in 1998 during a lunch-break entirely out of context.
Oh, I did not know about that exchange.
>It was about our present society most often
making the wrong technological choices - with the result that potential
technologies become buried; just as it was about the fact that simply
because it is buried it is not necessarily good. It was about the systems
of scientific and social repression that select which scientific models are
acceptable to define established paradigms. He also gravely distorts what
I represented as having invented and discovered in the realm of the PAGD at
the time of the confrontation. He smears everything, sweeping to the
present, to insinuate what? I leave it up to you.
Yes, he is a wild card, to be sure, as I have precisely defined to you above.
> I am forced, once
again, to conclude what Reich concluded - people are not ready to
understand; they want salvation on a platter, but they are armored against
life, love and knowledge. Jed is an insidious, lying, conniving, vengeful,
resentful little man. Three years later he is still stuck or fixated on
this event!
Indeed, he is very, very well armored. He is a strange mixture: On the one hand great imagination about what may be possible, on the other hand, a view that is myopic in the extreme. He has come to believe -- unless shown otherwise -- that cold fusion is the only new energy source. Moreover, he asserts to me that it likely will be explained by "conventional physics." About 10 years ago when I first met him and joined forces with him and later Chris Tinsely, who was a real Mensch, Jed was different. The cold fusion war and its tragedies have made him bitter. I guess I can say that about myself too. But, I have had the good fortune to have the right kind of scientific background and interest that has made me investigate matters such as PAGD, Reich's claims, flaws in evolution theory, flaws in relativity, cosmology, etc. with an open mind. Jed has no ability to do this at all. One might as well talk to a lowly worker at McDonalds about such matters! Jed has the mind of a computer programmer -- very linear in his thinking (except when it comes to discussions of history and the history of technology).
> And this is the guy who purports to have something to say re
inventor's disease - a guy who is clearly malicious and suffers from what
one should better call the promoter's disease.
Yes, I would agree with that assessment.
> To top it all, he forgets
that he got insanely mad and inarticulate at the time precisely because
only one person of those present defended him.
I can well imagine the scene. I have seen it happen before.
>Ask Alf [John Thompson] what he thought -
he was there, if I recall correctly. What is more, this guy does not even
realize what are the issues at stake - that they are issues of science
and not, I repeat, NOT a matter of gizmos that will conquer the market. He
is placing you in an untenable position - and he sure as hell is not going
to squeeze me, or my work with Alexandra.
Within our organization I am in charge. He has no ability to write anything in Infinite Energy, for example, which would pass the boundary of acceptability. He can mouth off on Vortex but that will not change Infinite Energy. I think it is clear to most people that Jed and I have fundamental disagreements, but that I am in charge. Also, I make technical decisions with Ken Rauen and seek funding from such as Entenmann and O'Donnell and PM. If Jed had been in charge of such matters, IE would have gone nowhere.
> He has, at best, a simplistic
notion of the world around us.
He does have a simplistic notion. I admit that my notions have also been somewhat simplistic too, but they have changed for the better. I am much more cynical now -- MUCH more!
> At worst, a hidden agenda that he intends
to serve at our cost.
He has no grand agenda other than to make cold fusion or any other free energy source (that is proven to him) succeed. He is just spouting off in his usual uncontrolled way. In the future, were he to try to cross any important line with me, I and Charles Entenmann would be able to deal with the matter
> Since you have repeatedly made it clear to us that
dealing with you implies dealing with your organization, my advice to you
is sanitize him - otherwise there is much that we have agreed to do or are
contemplating doing that will have to be revised. What a jackass!
I do hope that you will take this response as my sincere definition of the nature of Jed Rothwell and his relation to me and IE. I would hope that our working relationship will be considered by you as continuing to be strong, apart from these occasional very unpleasant but ultimately ineffectual outbursts by Jed.
>Let me know your thoughts on the above as soon as you gather the facts.
Dear friend, I have given them to you as best I can. I will write more when I receive your hopefully understanding response to this letter.
>Best wishes
Paulo
All good wishes, Indeed!
Gene
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Subject: Re: More from Aetherometry
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:16:06 -0800
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
On 1/30/02 10:51 AM, "thomas malloy" wrote:
> It will no doubt interest you to know that neither Hal Puthoff or I
can make any sense out of it either. Other than their pointing out
the temperature anomaly that occurs over the top of a orgone
collector. I'm still trying to figure out what Neiche [Sic] has to do will [Sic]
all this. I understood that someone had tested the Correa's PAGD and
determined that it was producing O U energy, does anyone know
anything about that?
As far as I know, neither you nor Hal Puthoff have downloaded any of the
comprehensive EXPERIMENTAL and theoretically linked modules of the Correas
-- the ones that have nominal charges for downloading. Have you? Perhaps
that is why you don't understand any of it. You haven't read it. There are
compendious electrical and thermal experiments that appear to have have no
other explanation other than an aether as characterized by the Correas.
As far as the PAGD device goes, it can run a 500 watt draw motor right now,
with only 50 watts DC input. See my testimonial to that effect. Previous
problems of transduction to O/U motor operation have been solved. Closing
that loop is a foregone conclusion -- engineering the generator only. The
electrical aether motors run off orgone accumulators are self-sustaining
already at the low wattage level. I have looked inside the electronics box
on my last visit -- absolutely no funny business inside, but that is only my
inspection and my word. Then there are the associated physical effects
through human bodies that can't possibly be faked.
Per Jed's public request on this forum, as soon as I get some clear time
(hah!)_ I'll post some descriptions of the body of the Correa work, in
perhaps more understandable terms, to help those not familiar with the
Correa work. These comments will come in stages -- not all at once.
These are not easy monographs. It is very radical physics, but it is ALL
based on experiment, not someone's derivation of a derivation of a
derivation on the foundation of relativity or QM, which describes most of
what passes for physics today.
For now, issue #41 of IE and the following issue #42 (out in late March),
describe a commercial Stirling motor run by the heat developed from the
aether INSIDE a modified orgone accumulator. See their module AS2-05 "The
Thermal Anomaly in ORACS and the Reich-Einstein Experiment: Implications for
Blackbody Theory," which proves that the heat (developed *inside* the
Faraday cage) is of aether origin. The motor demonstration merely
emphasizes the point that a practical application is possible. There are
adequate controls described in those papers, but the best "controls" are as
given in AS2-05. These Stirling/Hybrid ORAC papers are now posted also on
the Correa site.
The monographs are quite clear about numerous other experiments that defy
conventional explanation -- such as with Telsa coils. Yes, theory --
difficult theory -- is developed in parallel. One might wish to read the
experiments and ignore the theory for now, then go back and study the theory
later. There are many ways to approach this. The Correa effort is
superlative scientific work, ready made for confirmation by others who care
to read it.
Gene Mallove
www.infinite-energy.com
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Subject: Re: Various
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:13:39 -0800
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Good to hear from you again. A new funding prospects for you has arrived --
see below. But first other matters.
> Dear Gene -
How are you and Joanne settling in the new home?
It is keeping us busy but we are loving it more and more as it comes
together. It is right for us -- by far the most convenient and well put
together home we have ever had and we have had many in our turbulent times.
> And your parents?
They are prospering too at Pine Rock Manor. The staff are very attentive and
intelligent about medical aspects and all other aspects of care. An entirely
different patient/family/caregiver relationship than at Odd Fellows Home.
> We got our copies of IE last Friday. We loved everything but...the
cover. Barbara barbarized the whole feel of Alex's painting, clipped
the thermometers and made a meaningless allegory.
I am glad that you are overall pleased with #41 but sad that the cover was
not up to your expectations. I was not thrilled with it either, but it IS
eye catching and provocative nonetheless. Part of the problem is that we
were having very stormy times with Barbara. She communicates with Christy,
but no longer with me -- not even to give me angry direct feedback on my
various moderate letters to her discussing here status change. She is no
longer Managing Editor, Christy has taken that role now. We have an
agreement that Barbara will do covers for a fixed fee. For now, until and
unless we find another designer, that will suffice.
> Do not bother to tell
her, but. Anyway, the rest was excellent - and we loved the fact you
mentioned Akronos and included Harold's paper (which was a pleasure to
reread).
Good. He sent us another letter concerning Graneau's air arc work which we
will publish next issue.
> There's been a few days we have not been in contact - so, here goes a
whole batch of other items.
We loved too your response to Molloy in Vortex - quite to the point, and
excellent. The unfortunate reality is that people are addicted to the
soundbyte on a platter.
Yep. That is what the world has become.
> Any prospect of having to do some legwork in
order to understand something repels them.
Indeed.
> We have had plenty of orders
for AS2-16 because, simply because, it mentions 'excess energy'.
Happy to hear that -- that is the "motivator" phenomenon at work.
> Yet,
anyone who has not tried to attentively follow the preceeding 15
monographs will not understand even one line of it.
Well, maybe two lines... :)
> Alas, the hillbilly
mens capta triumphs. Indeed, you are quite correct, neither Molloy nor
Puthoff have ordered any material, and we do not even believe they have
downloaded the free material.
It figures. Puthoff is to be blamed -- severely. Malloy does not have the
technical background to understand your work, but he subscribes to IE
anyway. That is good enough for me.
> This once again proves that you are just the ideal communicator to
convey, as you suggest (by the way what did Rothwell say?), a distillate
of the work. We would love to help you out on this task if and when you
feel poised to take it up.
I am so eager to do it! In fact, if I could miraculously make time to do
NOTHING else, that is what I would be doing. But I will try my best to do
it part time.
Jed Rothwell has just suggested on Vortex that a Glossary would help
Aetherometry.com -- I know you have intended to post such an item. It would
help everyone, including me - and I think it would further sales. Is there
any prospect of posting even a short glossary for now, and then doing a more
comprehensive one later?
Rothwell has actually been warming to your work -- just a tiny bit -- as a
result of the Stirling/Orac experiment. This is what he wrote to me about
it:
"The Correa results with the Stirling engine are remarkable. If they can be
replicated by two or three others, I will start to be impressed. He claims
the daytime results cannot be caused by solar heat. I do not fully
understand his computations and null tests to prove this point. They are
difficult to believe in any case, because the machine is only extracting a
small amount of the potential energy, which means the margin of error is
large; i.e., if it is extracting a fraction of 1 percent more solar energy
that he thinks, his hypothesis is wrong. Also, it is very difficult to know
how much power the motor is producing. In any case, the daylight results
are weak, but results at night appear to be more anomalous. The only
conventional explanation I can think of would be heat released from the
floor and objects in the room. I have observed very large, persistent air
temperature differences in quiescent rooms. I investigated this when we
were testing the Perkins device."
"As you know, I loath Correa personally but it would not bother me for a
second if it turned out his claims are true, as long as they are made
public. I couldn't care less how much of a jerk he is. This field is
overrun with jerks, from Fritz Will ("Fritz Won't") to Mills, Bearden,
Shoulders and the late Reding -- to name a few. One or two more make no
difference to me. I am only concerned about results. However, I fear that
Correa's many personality problems will continue to prevent him from
commercializing or teaching the technology."
HE should talk about personality problems!!! Jed is a very, strange and
difficult man, to say the least. We have very little communication (which is
how we coexist), and when we do it is often not pleasant, but I have learned
to take it -- in exchange for his good (and free!) writing work, mostly on
cold fusion topics. He is quite robotic and emotionless in general human
discourse -- lacking almost completely in affect, except when he gets angry
about something -- such as your approach to the world and science-- that he
THINKS he understands, but he does not understand it completely or at all.
He thinks he is careful in his assessments, but he is not. As you can see,
he attacks others too, many of whom you yourself may not like -- e.g.
Bearden. His primary "virtue" -- I am sure you would disagree -- is that if
something "works" (to his satisfaction), all will be forgiven and he will
heap praise on it. So there is hope for this poor affect-challenged man -
much more hope in some sense than for Puthoff, who will probably NEVER
agree that aetherometry can have any value.
> We have been hard at work writing up the paper (AS2-28) on the radiation
meter response to biological fields. It is simply fascinating what we
are learning with it. We have had to repeat several of the measurements
for increased accuracy - and that is taking longer than we thought.
I am delighted that your productive work continues.
> All three wheels are still turning and several experiments have been
conducted, but not yet the definitive one - still chasing a few
unknowns, but certain that it is not an artifact and that it can be
tamed.
Excellent-Squared!!!! Dear Friends: When you tame this, I strongly suggest
that this could become one of the most enticing products for Aethera. It
would be provocative, instructional, and accessible to a range of psyches.
It would SUCK in all manner of inquiries about your work (many of them
trashy and nasty), but out of which would come the golden $50-$100 million
investor.
> Once one strips the electrostatic effects, the basic phenomenon
seems to be geomagnetic and weather-dependent - yet that is not the
entire story. We have done data-acquisition analysis for a week on one
of the wheels, and the diurnal pattern is evident. However, the more
interesting wheel arrangement is so sensitive that it responds to the
presence of the photocell circuit (clear artifact employed by you know
who), and so we must find another method to study its variation in
speed. We are now doing this with a remote video camera placed far
enough from the wheel.
Excellent -- that is just what I would have done.
> To this day we have not heard from Hoagland (he got his first volume
under his arm and then disappeared...) or from Guillen.
They are not needed -- for now.
> That's alright
- none of us actually thinks that kind of publicity ever does one any
good. Anymore than the supersecret national energy policy cooked with
the semi-defunct Enron and targeting the Alaska fields (incidentally,
Rothwell analysis of Enron is highly demagogical - he almost touches the
core but pulls back; strange fellow).
Very, very strange -- as I have said above.
> These are all props in an eternal
show buttressed by rationalized ignorance: unless peer-reviewed to death
by Science or Nature, no science matters. Can you imagine the day when
either one would publish one of our monographs?
Not willingly. BUT -- I can well imagine them accepting a $6,000 check for a
one page technical/commercial ad (as they did with S. Marinov). They would
be letting in a Trojan horse! An Aethera ad with suitable guarantees, as I
have planned, would devastate the world of physics and engineering. There is
that critical 1-5% who would actually try something new and the word would
spread like wildfire. Then Nature and Science would have to report on the
resulting furor! What a joy that would be...:)
> Forget about their
length. It will never happen, precisely because the dogma of
peer-reviewed science has become an ongoing murder of the scientific
spirit. A protection racket.
Indeed. Thus my overriding point: We must do an END RUN around the corrupt
process. If forced to obey the rules, failure is guaranteed. You have made
a giant first step already -- the ever growing aetherometry.com
> This is almost where the task of Aetherometry and education necessarily
converge - unless one forms scientists with a different mind and new
tools, we are all done for.
Again, dear friends, the wrong-minded scientists are products of a defective
system. It is not entirely their individual faults that they act the way
they do. The pressures for conformity are immense. They must be brought out
of their stupor by enticement of some kind.
> We heard from Uri last Thursday, before he left for Holland. He is due
to be back today.
I left a message with him yesterday concerning the new funding prospect.
I was contacted yesterday by my friend at a distance, Dr. Ron Klatz of the
American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. You will see their ad in IE
regularly -- p.8 of the latest issue. We have an exchange ad with them. The
main purpose of his call was to invite me to be a speaker next December at
their national convention meeting in Las Vegas. All expenses paid, so I
will do it. Of course I will be talking up aetherometry and your work big
time -- drawing the potential connection between your physics/biophysical
findings and many unexplained aspects of modern medicine. I'll talk about CF
too, but less than I would ordinarily do. There should be some 3,000
physicians at that meeting. The organization is fighting an uphill battle
against the well funded mainstream medical establishment. So, he well
understands what aetherometry and CF are up against.
Ron has always been open to the kinds of things we publish, so I never fail
to tell him of the latest. I briefed him on our plans for Aethera, making
particular note of the aether field meter, which really captivated him. I
asked him whether some of his physician colleagues would be interested in
investing $500k to $1 million level. He said that this kind of money was
easy to raise when proper info is given to the doctors concerned -- they
have raised in the past few years $20 million, he says. One company, private
still, has found a way to revive cadaverous organs (such as kidneys) -- some
hours after death. This will greatly expand the availbility of donor organs,
which are ordinarily taken from still living (but brain dead) bodies. He
says some 300 such transplants have already been done, but it is being kept
quiet for commercial reasons. I do not known the particulars. Ron was so
excited about your work that he offered to propose spending $50,000 of their
funds to begin incorporation process, web site set up, etc. I told them
that much more was needed for the production process, salaries, etc. He
understands this. He is not trying to buy-in cheap. I sense a really
positive connection here. I told him that Uri might call him soon, so I do
hope to brief Uri on this.
Here is a suggestion: Let us consider a hands-on visit by Drs. Ron Klatz and
his Board colleague Dr. Bob Goldman, who specializes in the investment
outreach. Perhaps at the same time we could combine these two doctors'
visits with Dr. Kornberg. I know you have schedule problems, but I do think
this may be very productive. We have not really tried to tap into the "open
minded physician" community, and here it is at our doorstep. Physicians
generally have plenty of money,and they are always looking for good deals
to multiply their wealth. Also, idealist ones like Kornberg and Klatz would
like to help make seminal contributions to medicine.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
Most of the otherer funding quests are still alive but each has their own
problems and explanations for little action. For now I'll not bore you with
the details. Let us try to focus on the Klatz-Kornberg prospect. I have a
good feeling about it.
> No one has any prospectively good financial news. As
soon as we are done with the 17A,B and C papers we will go south again -
scouting - from mid March to mid April.
Well, perhaps in February we could squeeze in a
Uri-Mallove-Klatz-Goldman-Kornberg visit. Let us try to keep the Aethera
prospect alive. I think it is still very, very viable.
> Warmest regards
Alex & Paulo
All good wishes -- and big hugs,
> PS - The article about electricity from mud was fascinating! Thank you!
On the patent issue - we have not yet received "the form copy, the final
hard copy of the application and a disk with MS word version". Were you
sending it by FedEx?
I will send it by standard mail today or tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.
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Subject: Re: Various
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 22:34:55 -0800
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
I have had a bad sore throat today -- so I was not in the office - getting
better though. Say, do you think that the general subjective impression one
gets with colds - that evening time brings on worse feelings -- has anything
to do with the dearth of aether flux from the Sun at night?
> Dear Gene -
We're very happy that you, Joanne and your parents are all settling in and
happy with the new surroundings.
On the Rothwell issue: yes, a glossary has been in the works for sometime but is still far from ready. But people like Rothwell will never have any use for it, since he, too, has not downloaded any material - free or otherwise.
It would be useless in his hands even if he did download anything.
> We
thank you for copying us on his letter to you. As usual he shoots off his
mouth without thinking - it is beyond us how he arrives at:
"They are
difficult to believe in any case, because the machine is only extracting a
small amount of the potential energy, which means the margin of error is
large; i.e., if it is extracting a fraction of 1 percent more solar energy
that he thinks, his hypothesis is wrong."
which is obvious nonsense if one considers precisely what we found in AS2-05
for the BORAC spectrum - many percents more would make no difference such as
Rothwell claims. How he manages to make such statements without having
anything to back them up with is only another sign of his rabid hatred of
Paulo. We wonder how much longer we will endure his ravings without attacking
him head on, for a myriad of such stupidities about issues which, incidentally,
when they arise from the Mizuno or Ohmori camp he gladly excuses and approves.
Do not waste your time with him. You have better things to do. He is an
ignoramus on these matters and many others. Her does shoot from the hip far
too often. I myself intend to firmly put him down when I discuss
aetherometry on Vortex -- in due course. But do as you wish.
> The guy is psychotic.
>> Excellent-Squared!!!! Dear Friends: When you tame this, I strongly suggest
that this could become one of the most enticing products for Aethera. It
would be provacoative, instructional, and accessible to a range of psyches.
It would SUCK in all manner of inquiries about your work (many of them
trashy and nasty), but out of which would come the golden $50-$100 million
investor.
> Impossible to continue to believe this, Gene - we and you have thought or
written the same about all the other inventions, and we still have gone
nowhere.
Precisely because not a single one is in kit form yet. There is not a single
revolutionary product whose potential effect can be precisely judged in
advance before sales are tried --whether something as mundane as a
"slinky", something as quirky as a "Piece of infinity" or as advanced as the
new iMac that looks so cute.
>>> We heard from Uri last Thursday, before he left for Holland. He is due
to be back today.
>> I left a message with him yesterday concerning the new funding prospect.
[snip, repeats above message re. Katz]
>These are hopeful news. We have not heard from Uri. Have you two managed to
make contact yet?
No. I am mystified why he did not call back. I shall call him again, throat
willing.
>> Well, perhaps in February we could squeeze in a
Uri-Mallove-Klatz-Goldman-Kornberg visit. Let us try to keep the Aethera
prospect alive. I think it is still very, very viable.
> Such a visit would have to take place before Feb. 20, which is a very unlikely
prospect. The alternative is later in April.
We shall see. Let me explore on my side -- K + K -- and see what the
reaction is.
> Our backs are right against the
wall. Our losses in this month alone have wiped out even our small margin of
maneuver. Let us know how best to proceed. What did you have in mind - a one
day event, with demos of the field meter, the charger and the wheels (plus the Stirling videos)?
That would be quite adequate -- would not want to absorb any more of your
time than that. It would be helpful if an Aether Motor were working too, even though
not part of the mix.
>>> On the patent issue - we have not yet received "the form copy, the final
hard copy of the application and a disk with MS word version". Were you
sending it by FedEx?
>> I will send it by standard mail today or tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.
> We still have not received it.
Mails must be slow. It was sent out first class -- nothing special.
> We should also note that we have not received the proofs for the Stirling
second part.
I'll query Christy.
(...)
All good wishes,
Gene
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Subject: Re: Various - 5/8/02
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:39:47 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
(...)
> On the Rothwell matter - we have asked for legal advice from our
counsel, but do not have an answer yet. Are you still planning on
responding to him by Monday?
Absolutely. It is on schedule even with "Mother's Day" interlude on Sunday and Ethan visiting us.
(...)
The target is Monday and I will cut off my writing which could expand forever, just to make that deadline -- maybe later that day. I'll send you a draft first for your interest and comment with respect to technical statements about your work. I think it most important that I, as IE editor, speak first on this matter.
(...)
> We also caution you about Les Case - we never believed his research had
anything of value to offer,
I beg to differ. McKubre has made quite precise measurements which appear to validate it - helium correlated well with excess heat -- and reproducible. You have not seen his paper. I'll send it to with some other stuff.
(...)
Ah, never lose the taste for life even if "humanity" disgusts you. My ingrained Jewish optimism -- the "Chai" -- "To Life!" "(18)".
> Please let us know what you would like us to do regarding JR
Have your own critique ready for later next week after mine.
(...)
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Subject: FW: MEG measurement errors?
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:29:49 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Paulo and Alexandra,
I do not know whether you will get this shortly on your travels or when you
return. I thought you'll like to see this blast I gave to Jed on Vortex.
My kidney stone passed in fragments finally. I am stone free -- or "stoned
out" if you prefer!
Busy as usual. Will write more in a few days. Nothing too dramatic on other
fronts to report.
All good wishes,
Gene
------ Forwarded Message
From: Eugene F. Mallove
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:55:04 -0700
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: MEG measurement errors?
On 4/30/02 1:28 PM, "Jed Rothwell" wrote:
> Bob:
Did you send that message to J. Naudin?
I do not know much about electricity, but I suspect that all reports of o/u
output from electrical devices are mistakes similar to the one you
described. Otherwise, someone would have made one of these gadgets self
sustain.
Jed, this is a nonsense statement and it hearkens back to the same kind of
nonsense that was used against the Wright brothers. Shame on you! :). You
may disagree with my and other reports of testimonials of the Correa's PAGD
work and self sustaining motors, but this is just a prejudice on your part.
I stand by my observations as do the handful of others who have seen and
measured their PAGD and aether motors. Now they have other devices (see
latest letters of support by me and others posted on their web site.) One
is a perpetually spinning wheel that drives against friction with no input
power at all. It has been spinning for months. I was there when it spun --
under my direct observation and testing -- for over a day. There is NO
mistake. Another is a self charging capacitor circuit. Another is their
aether field meter, which has profound medical implications --as do the
aether motors themselves.
Again, there are some people, such as the Correas, who are far more
interested in science than in commercialization and "changing the world."
They have their own standards and agenda. They don't feel they owe anything
to "humanity." They are the most wonderful people, but they just don't
happen to buy into your idea that they or we owe the world anything -- just
because they have discovered free energy and are far ahead of the Mills,
Bearden, and cold fusion community (with respect to the technical
performance of their devices). They have resurrected the line of work that
Tesla and Reich began. They have published exemplary scientific articles on
experiment and theory -- just as the cold fusion people have. Further, there
is almost no doubt in my mind that cold fusion will never be understood by
the pathetic, wrong, physics that passes for truth in textbooks today.
You may disagree vehemently with this philosophy of the Correas, but at
least acknowledge that it is an individual position which is as valid within
its own context as any other philosophy. They have a right to their own
property. If they think that the world does not deserve this technology on
the world's own commercial terms, they are welcome to that view. Also you
should acknowledge that you do not have enough scientific understanding to
evaluate their work and you have unfortunately and carelessly burned your
bridges with them. For the Correas it is science, not business first.
Blast away if you wish :) You're good at that, but you are still as wrong
as wrong can be.
Gene Mallove
------ End of Forwarded Message
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Subject: J.R.
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 17:52:19 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
I will be submitting a firm statement to Vortex regarding Rothwell's outrageous antics against you and others, but I need some time to compose my message properly. Just wanted you to know,
Hope you are both well wherever you are. I will be leaving for China --ICCF9 on May 17, returning May 25th.
All good wishes,
Gene
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Subject: Re: J.R.
Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:35:55 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Paulo and Alex,
Great to hear from you again and to learn of your travels! Just a quick note
before a lengthier reply after today -- I hope.
I have been reading more deeply the modules and gaining new insights and
understanding. It is a fantastic achievement the more I comprehend it. I am
preparing to create and overview of the modules so far that will entice the
open-minded people on Vortex, IE, and elsewhere. This essay will grow and
expand. But its initial version -- for Vortex -- will have a special
up-front blast at Rothwell, whose bigotry and ignorance and fascism disgusts
me. I suggest that you allow me first to expose his bullshit on Vortex in
my "diplomatic" but firm way and then later you can come in with anything
you wish -- I will post to Vortex any reply you send me. His opinion will be
firmly disassociated by me from the editorial policy of IE. He has gone
beyond the pale, and I suspect he will eventually leave IE for good of his
own accord. But we shall see.
> We are very much considering our options and would like to hear
more about the response to Rothwell and Vortex you indicated you are
composing.
Aside from our trip to Europe in June (12 to 29th), we will now focus solely
in finding some viable alternative to our present and dire situation. We may
have to do far more traveling than we had expected. This has become a very small
world indeed. Wishing to have had better news -
Best wishes - and a hug from us both -
Alexandra & Paulo
All good wishes -- and a hug back,
Gene
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Subject: Re: J.R.
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 22:53:43 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
> Dear Gene,
Dear Alex and Paulo,
> OK. We'll wait to hear from you before responding to this moron - but
he really needs to be severely kicked - and soon.
You are absolutely right about that. I am burning with rage. I am studying
and composing all the time. This needs a very solid response that makes him
look like the buffoon that he is in attacking you. So, my missive will
include overwhelming evidence that illustrates the stupidity of his attacks.
> Malgosia has
forwarded another brain-dead missive from him to Vortex received today -
and, as usual, it's clear he'd rather do anything than actually read the
material or make any attempt to understand what's being said before
taking an issue with it.
Agreed.
> Any ignorant, irrelevant speculation about
what we 'might' be claiming is infinitely preferable. Yes, he's
unbelievably ignorant, bigoted, resentful and a little fascist to boot.
More agreement!
> He should get a very stern response as soon as you can muster it.
My target is by Monday, 5/12.
> If you would like us to take a look at it before you send it, feel free to
send it over.
I may just do that.
> By the way, do you know anything about another jerk who
goes by the name of 'Uncle Al'? Is he a friend of Rothwell's?
I have not heard of this person.
> We were, of course, very pleased to hear that you have continued reading
the monographs and are feeling sufficiently inspired to write -
Reading these is a delight.
> though we really doubt the Vortex crowd will yield anything of interest.
But I will make damn sure that they know -- in general and specific terms --
what they are missing.
> It will probably be of more value in IE or on our website - or in other
venues we may come up with.
True enough.
> But it would be excellent to go forward with this - and we would love to read it.
Have you had a chance to look at the Aspden Opinion yet?
Is this on your site? I could not find it there earlier. I was reviewing his
excellent piece in IE shortly after we began the PAGD stuff in 1996. What a
long road this has been!
> Hoping you're well and looking forward to hearing from you -
Alex & Paulo
All good wishes,
Gene
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Subject: Various - 5/8/02
Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 23:38:26 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
A short note because it's late:
1. I have printed out the Aspden opinion -- thanks for directing me to the
right location.
2. I have just gotten the very disappointing news from C.E. [Charles Entenmann]. That he will not
be able to advance us as much money as he had planned -- 5 year loans. The
details are not spelled out, jut that we are getting immediately less than
planned by 50%, possibly much less later. There is the strong feeling in
his message that his financial handler/banker has had his hands in this.
C.E. says -- paraphrasing -- "We'll send you some money now (half of what I
had expected) and let's talk after you return from ICCF9" and "The magazine
has to make more money, but how???"
This is a big blow, a sad day, but I was half-expecting it. I will have to
tell Ken and Christy tomorrow afternoon so that we can take personal and
company actions that will evidently be necessary -- compress the lab further
into our unused publishing side space, thinner magazine maybe, and some of
us - including me and Ken -- needing to take other full or part time work
while putting lab activities on hold. Maybe I'll teach high school again --
at least the chance to "save" some young minds! This, unless we get funding
from some other potential sources soon -- we have been working very hard in
that direction and see some possibilities. We have been seeing some unusual
"energetics" in the lab - Case's catalytic fusion device seems to be coming
to life and some other devices brought to us, one of which -- purely
electronic -- has a very peculiar nature (we are under NDA on it, but I have
urged the party to examine aetherometry for possible deeper explanations).
Another device was just described to me by a trusted long time subscriber --
and if he is not making a mistake, his observation is astounding. All this
may be leading nowhere of course -- more wild goose chases. The imperative
of the hour is to create a new modality to survive -- as an entity and as
human beings.
3. More crap from Rothwell in a private exchange. Let me give you our
exchange this afternoon which comes from this Vortex flap on "RF as the
Hyborac explanation". See below. I am getting to the limits of my toleration
of Rothwell. I find myself desperately wishing for him to leave the scene
or our company and magazine. It may happen and I may engineer it. The
exchange:
******
From Rothwell,5/8/02 --9:45 a.m. -- to Mallove
Rothwell first reaffirms his contention that Case's large (dewar cell
designed for self-sustaining) is "insane". Then he continues:
Rothwell: You wrote:
>And, you branded this "insane" when you first heard about it!
It is insane. You should be using the Seebeck, instead of doing all this
guesswork. You are talking about a "range of 5 to 10 watts." That's a
ridiculously wide range. If the thing would self-sustain you could be sure
of your results, but as long as it remains well below that level you have
no firm assurance. You may even be wasting your time. I hope you are
correct and it is producing ~10 watts, but I would not be terribly shocked
to find out you are wrong. As for Case's own calorimeter, McKubre and
others think it is far less accurate than Case thinks. It is practically
useless.
On another subject, did Correa check the ambient RF noise? I gather there
might be enough to drive a Stirling engine. Does he live near a radio tower?
- Jed
[ Note - This gratuitous red herring eventually made it to the pen of a Rothwell ally inside Gene's organization, a fellow (J. Kooistra) who wrote a vituperous attack on our research and replication of the "Reich-Einstein experiment" for the magazine Analog Science Fiction and Fact. We responded by demonstrating - with data and with the calculations that Rothwel and Kooistra did not know how to perform - how ambient RF simply (by 2 orders of magnitude) cannot cause even the minimalized temperature difference(s) observed in that experiment. See our letters and Gene's to the Analog magazine editor in "Jeffery Kooistra 'does' Aether Physics" (2002)] ].
******
From Rothwell -- 5/8/02 -- 2:26 pm:
>> On another subject, did Correa check the ambient RF noise? I gather there
might be enough to drive a Stirling engine.
> This is complete bullshit -- just like the other crap you have been dishing
out against Correa on Vortex, sans reading the aetherometry literature --
just like what you accuse the anti-cold fusion skeptics of.
I cannot understand the aetherometry literature, but the experiment
description in the magazine is clear. I do not know what the average RF
power in a room would be, but based on the responses at Vortex Correa would
be well advised to check for it. RF meters are cheap and widely available.
If he has not done this he is remiss.
[ Note how Rothwell makes an objection before making sure that the objection itself is valid. The Vortex forum is his measure of validity... Not to mention how very few existing RF meters are reliable devices calibrated for both peak volts/m and average watts/sq. meter, or have a wide frequency response. The good ones are not cheap, either. All his objections are simply gratuitous and borne out of dark passions. ]
Back to Rothwell:
I assume Correa always tests his gadget in the dark (at night). Charles
Ford wrote to me:
"There may have been an incandescent bulb in the room. I have noticed as
much as 7 degree C change in metal surfaces (especially copper) just
because of an Edison hot wire.... I have since changed all of my lab
lighting to florescent. There is still occasional measurement problems but
not near as much."
I told him there is no incandescent light. However, the fact that one can
produce a 7 deg C temperature change should be a concern for Correa.
[ Note that Rothwell claimed to have read the paper in question - yet he failed to remark that the room was kept in total dark and the brief readings were taken with a flashlight... ]
Back to Rothwell:
> If you'd read the literature of copious experiments they have published
that back them up in spades and go far beyond the Stirling engine issue,
this RF red herring would not even be an issue. Suit yourself.
Until the RF is measured or until someone shows me that average RF can
never produce a 1 or 2 deg C temperature rise, it will be an issue,
obviously. I do not know enough to judge, but so far no one has told me the
RF hypothesis is unthinkable or out of the question. You have not told me
that. Since it is very simple to check for RF it should be done. I gather
you have not been able to replicate the Correa effect. Perhaps you are far
from any intense RF source, and they are close to one. Or your building
acts as a larger Faraday cage, preventing most RF from reaching the machine.
It does not matter how many "copious" experiments they have done if all are
flawed by the same mistake. That is another reason why independent
replication is essential before these results become credible. I do not
understand why you think the Correas should be exempt from the normal
standards that we apply to Pons and Fleischmann, the hot fusion program,
and all other scientists. Whence the double standard? What is so special
about these people? No one, anywhere, will ever get a free ride from me.
>It's damn hard to make an MM6 Stirling do what they made it do.
That is another problem with this experiment. How hard is it to make the
Stirling engine run? Has anyone calibrated or measured the Stirling output?
Do we know whether it is producing milliwatts, or watts? I do not see any
mention of that in the article.
- Jed
*******
That is all for now dear friends. Sorry that you should even see this
pathetic garbage from Rothwell.
All good wishes,
Gene
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Subject: Re: DRAFT - (unfinished)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:56:21 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Thanks for your input. I accepted all your suggestions, all have been
integrated.
> Dear Gene,
Sorry it took a little time to get this back to you - but here it is.
We are attaching your essay draft as an MS Word Document in rtf format.
We have put corrections, additions or subtractions in bold type. We did
add a few small sections for clarity. Let us know what you think, or if
you need anything else before firing it.
You know, with all this praise of Aspden from JR, it would be most
amusing if you were to ask him to explain, in his own words, Aspden's
theory of the Aether to you. We bet you - a thousand to one - he
doesn't have a clue how it works...
I would not take such a bet. I'd surely lose!
> It seems pretty clear from this latest piece of bile you forwarded
regarding the Aspden Opinion that this pathological little pinhead is
not going to let go. So be ready for a rapid and rabid reaction...
One can never tell with him. He sometimes surprises me...
> We are also preparing on several fronts over here. We have not yet a final
decision on the extent to which we will take it on our end.
That is entirely for you to decide, since you are the parties who have been
attacked. All I wish to do is to set the record straight about your
integrity and MY integrity -- and sanity!
> Among
pending courses of action, an attack on the bogus 'free energy'
proponents is a tempting new item for aetherometry...
You might do that if you wish, but if you do do it, I suggest that it would
be helpful for me to review what you write for input to you. I may have
some information that you may lack.
> Speaking of
which, you wouldn't by any chance happen to have a publicly available
jpg of JR would you? Alex looked for one - to no avail. She is
contemplating a cartoon and would dearly love an image...
I know of no publicly available jpg -- Ah, except, if you could somehow
access all his postings to Vortex -- not difficult, there are some
vacation-like photos that he may have put up.
> We won't tie you up any more for now.
> Happy hunting,
> Alex & Paulo
OK.
Best, Gene
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Subject: FW: Correa . . . problems #6, #7
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 10:04:21 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Uneducated speculations by Kooistra -- now an "ally" of Rothwell, as you
see. Politics makes strange bedfellows, as they say. Previously Kooistra
could not stand Rothwell, now all is sweetness. Real sick!
--Gene
------ Forwarded Message
From: Jeff & Dorothy Kooistra
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 23:26:43 -0400
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Correa . . . problems #6, #7
> Several logical consequences of the Correa claim do not make sense to me. First,
if the energy is able to pass through the earth, then it should also pass right
through an empty Reich box. What is unique about such a box that the energy is
converted to heat (or removes heat) only there? Why does this energy manifest
itself only in the special box, but ignores the earth?
I thought of this one, too, since the earth itself is a conductor. For that
matter, the upper atmosphere is a conductor, too. So, does conductivity
play a role? And supposing the aether energy enters the ORAC, does it
interact within the metal walls of the ORAC, or does it go through to the
inside of the box? And if the latter, how does the energy "know" it's
supposed to stop inside the box? If it comes in on one side, why doesn't it
go out on the other? And suppose you have this great big enclosed metal space, like say, a metal semi-trailer--wouldn't this capture more energy
than a small box, resulting in a significant hot spot on the top of the
trailer? Wouldn't you be able to look at the top of the trailer at night
with a thermal imager and see the hot spot?
Y'know, it shouldn't be too tough to test an ORAC under vacuum conditions.
Or even just reduced pressure. If you put an ORAC in a box held at half of
an atmosphere, does it heat up as much as it does at full pressure? More?
Less?
Jeff
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Subject: FW: Jed's comments on Reich's ORAC
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:26:28 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
The Quinney-Marett-Rothwell axis lives.
- Gene
------ Forwarded Message
From: Jed Rothwell
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:32:53 -0400
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Cc: Doug Marett
Subject: Re: Jed's comments on Reich's ORAC
Colin Quinney quoted Doug Marett:
>To conclude, after several years of work on verifying Reich's observations
of temperature differences in the ORAC as compared to controls, I must
agree that the temperature difference does exist, but I must point out
that there is evidence that this difference may be an artefact caused by
heat convection, much like Einstein suggested. This lends support to Jed's
contention that the ORAC may just partition heat.
Marett put a lot of hard work into investigating the ORAC. See this 1992
paper:
http://marett.tripod.ca/orgpaper.html
It must be tough for him to reach this conclusion. He has guts! I have not
read orgpaper.html closely enough to determine whether he is retracting in
this case, or merely calling into question other people's findings. It says
"this phenomenon can not be due to 'convection currents' or 'heat
reflection due to insulation' . . ." It does not mention thermal gradients.
This again illustrates why a Reich device must be tested in a calorimeter.
I cannot understand why this has not been done. Perhaps it has been done,
but I did not hear about it. Still, it is strange that Correa is repeating
the same protocol that Einstein and others [ What others?? Marett never replicated the "Reich-Einstein experiment"! ] showed was invalid [ Einstein did not show that the protocol was invalid! If it was invalid, Einstein would not have confirmed a small but irreducible temperature difference! What Einstein believed was that Reich's explanation was not valid, since Einstein bought Infeld's notion that the phenomenon was caused by heat convection. ]. It was not convincing then, it still isn't, and there are many superior methods, so why keep doing the same experiment?!? [ It is called a replication, moron! ] It is as if all CF scientists were stuck in a time warp, still using precisely the same protocol P&F employed in 1989: bulk palladium, electrochemistry, an isoperibolic cell where only
the electrolyte temperature is measured. If that were the case, I would not
believe CF is real.
[ Funny to re-read this comment in 2025: are not the CF and LENR researchers stuck in some kind of time warp that has lasted over 4 decades? Over and over doing the same, yet to no avail? We recall the only research paper that Rothwell ever authored, a 2019 paper with T. Mizuno. It claims that "waiting for Godot" was the old LENR method, whereas Mizuno and Rothwell devised what they call the New Method, one that has instant gratification. Thus, by 2019, they reported excess heat of 12 to 17% with this New Method... a piffle, if that! Now, consider the fool back in 2002: ]
I am glad that cold fusion has been confirmed with a variety of different
methods and calorimeter types! We will never find one single error that
disproves all CF excess heat results. We would have to find a dozen
different errors, which is much less likely. It would be like flipping a
dozen coins and having them all come up "heads."
- Jed
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Subject: Re: Jed's comments on Reich's ORAC
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:54:03 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Vortex l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
On 6/6/02 4:06 PM, "Jed Rothwell" wrote:
> Eugene F. Mallove wrote:
>> Find it yourself. The name is Marett, not Maratt . . .
> That explains why I couldn't find it!
>> -- in the section on the orgone/aether motor.
> I can't find that section either. The index seems chaotic.
Chaotic to you, but not to a careful, truly interested reader with some
familiarity (by study) with the history of Reich. You are an antagonistic
dilettante in this area, looking for mud to sling at your perceived villains
-- as usual. You have found what you believe to be nice mud balls, which you
THINK are provided by Douglas Marett. They sure are mud, but they are devoid
of any meaning or value.
I invite you and other readers to review the sorry history of Douglas
Marett's behavior in 1996. This may be found at:
http://www.aetherometry.com/pagd/CorreaReich.html
With this appalling history of Marett in mind, I am sorry that Colin Quinney
introduced Douglas Marett's vacuous statements onto this forum -- along with
some digs at the Correas for good measure.
>In any case, the statements about Marett in the parts I have located are
incomprehensible gobbledygook.
You are a dilettante in this area from the word go. It is not gobbledygook.
> As far as I can make out, the author is criticizing Marett
for his theoretical interpretation, not his experimental methods or
results. The author does not address the thermal gradient artifact Marett
discovered,
Marett has discovered nothing at all. Measuring the floor-to-ceiling
gradient and correlating it with anything is laughable. The section
referred to is on orgone/aether motors, not the Reich-Einstein experiment.
My reference to this new posting by the Correas and to the 1996 history of
Marett was to educate readers on the true quality of mind, intent, and
behavior of Douglas Marett.
>which clearly, simply and conclusively shows that Marett's
results are not anomalous excess heat.
BELIEVE anything you want. His experiments are not conclusive -- where are
they precisely described and quantitated, to the extent done by the Correas
in IE#37? Answer: nowhere. Where is addressed by Marett the Correas' use of
the critical cardboard pedestal under the Faraday cage (with identical
cross-section) as one control, which eliminates air currents from below onto
the lower surface and thus an outstanding gradient between the two
horizontal faces of the Faraday cage?
>This test could be replicated easily
by any other "Orgone" investigator, or they could also use a calorimeter.
You almost get a sense they do not *want* to learn the truth.
This is pure bull. You are so out of line it boggles the mind.
>They want to
drag out a sterile, useless argument by not doing experiments. They
resemble the anti-cold fusion "skeptics" -- obsessed with theory, unwilling
to do a direct experiment that will test their beliefs.
This is truly absurd. Since you apparently think you are capable of
conversing with expertise on matters of thermal experiments, you have
abolished from consideration all the other experiments referred to in their
monographs. You, like anti-cold fusion skeptics, find one area that you
THINK you understand, and you attack it with massive ignorance and foolish
hypotheses. You make false analogies with "neutrinos" etc.
> This probably explains the results, as Einstein said. Marett explained to me:
"It is with much consternation that I must contradict myself and reverse
the Reichian line . . . [O]ver the past few years, I have been
improving my experimental technique and controls in order to better
understand Reich's phenomenon. In the case of To-T, better controls and
elimination of artifacts has instead led to the temperature difference
becoming vanishingly small. In the past 2 years, I have obtained negative
after negative result in Reich's experiments . . ."
Marett, if the truth be as indicated in the Correa/Reich Affair cited
above, and I have no reason to doubt the quotations and history, is utterly
inept -- but, of course, since the "enemy of my enemy is my friend", you
embrace him.
> Many CF claims have vanished the same way. The "skeptics" are partly right
about that. I admire Marett's dedication, but he too should have done other
experiments years ago.
He is a non-entity who should disappear from the scene as quickly as
possible, and you have stumbled yourself into a demonstrable quagmire of
stupidity. If you do not trust my view point about Marett, perhaps you will
trust Mike Carrell's judgment of Marett's behavior -- he is cited in the
article. Again:
http://www.aetherometry.com/pagd/CorreaReich.html
> Colin Quinnely refers sarcastically to researchers
who believe in their own "perfect experiment." His point -- and my point --
is that no experiment is perfect.
That is quite correct and the Correas are the best examples I know of
scientists who are very self-critical and who are very quick to answer
SINCERE criticisms of their experiments and theory.
>Every technique has shortcomings and blind spots.
Indeed. And the Correas have been exemplary in rooting as many of these out
as they can. They do not claim perfection. They are open to criticism, but
only from those who examine their work carefully, as you and Marett most
certainly have not.
> A result is never certain until it has been verified using
other instruments and other techniques.
Yes, and relying on ONE person -- such as Marett, who turns out to be less
than pristine -- to seek support for your ideas and battles, is quite
dangerous.
> - Jed
- Gene
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Subject: Re: Jed's comments on Reich's ORAC
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:14:58 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
On 6/6/02 9:15 PM, "Jeff & Dorothy Kooistra" wrote:
>Eugene F. Mallove wrote:
>> I invite you and other readers to review the sorry history of Douglas
Marett's behavior in 1996.
> I don't know Marett, and I'm automatically suspicious of anyone who would
spend years studying Reich. But the guy could be an axe murderer and it
still won't improve Paulo's experimental technique.
Bigotry again -- oh, so tiresome.
>>> In any case, the
statements about Marett in the parts I have located are incomprehensible
gobbledygook.
>> You are a dilettante in this area from the word go. It is not
gobbledygook.
> A "dilettante" no less? My my. Jed doesn't have to be a stable boy to
recognize horsesh*t.
Boy, the fire power is getting pretty strong! Signs instability creeping in
as the pressure cooker goes up...
>> Marett has discovered nothing at all. Measuring the floor-to-ceiling
radient and correlating it with anything is laughable.
> No it isn't--if he varied the gradient and found no correlation to the hot
spot temperature, this would be very meaningful.
Indeed, it would go a long way toward eliminating the gradient as a source
of error.
Oh, dear, what a know-it-all the man is.
>>> which clearly, simply and conclusively shows that Marett's
results are not anomalous excess heat.
>> BELIEVE anything you want. His experiments are not conclusive -- where are they precisely described and quantitated, to the extent done by the
Correas in IE#37?
> The paper in IE#37 isn't very good. The Correa's do a correlation showing
that the temperature difference of the two thermometers could not be the
result of chance, but so what? No one argues that it is. The argument is
about whether or not the hot spot is an aetheric effect or an apparatus
artifact.
>> Marett, if the truth be as indicated in the Correa/Reich Affair cited
above, and I have no reason to doubt the quotations and history, is utterly
inept -- but, of course, since the "enemy of my enemy is my friend", you
embrace him.
> I can't address Jed's motives, Gene, but it seems pretty clear that the
editor of IE isn't likely to welcome papers critical of Reich and the
Correas.
I would welcome an intelligently written critique of any of the Correas'
work, but it would have to address to my satisfaction the error sources that
the Correas have meticulously closed off. And -- it would have to address
explanations of devices such as aether motors, aether field meters, etc.
>> (T)he Correas have been exemplary in rooting as many of these out
as they can. They do not claim perfection. They are open to criticism, but
only from those who examine their work carefully, as you and Marett most
certainly have not.
> Seems to me that they, and you, regard criticism of their work as certain
evidence that the criticizer hasn't examined their work carefully.
I know for a fact that you haven't. You can't claim to unless you have
studied a good portion of their monographs in detail. You have a theoretical
bias agenda and you know it.
>> Yes, and relying on ONE person -- such as Marett, who turns out to be less than pristine -- to seek support for your ideas and battles, is quite
dangerous.
> Jed isn't relying on one person--nearly everyone he's asked, except for you,
Oh, so Kooistra believes in the voting theory of science now - the one
favored by Park et al?! With the votes "counted" by Rothwell no less!!
> agrees that the Correa's work is poorly executed, logically inconsistent,
and written up in gobbledy-gook.
Well, I do suppose you have insufficient training to understand it. Poor
man.
OK, it's your and their right to hold that view. Long long ago in/near a
university far, far away (MIT), there were a handful of people (Mallove,
Smullin, Hagelstein, Swartz, etc.) who were meticulously studying the
evidence for cold fusion and finding legitimacy in it -- going against an
ocean of bigotry which persists to this day. This was long before
opportunistic toddlers like Kooistra and Rothwell entered the scene. You
are still toddlers. Similarly, I am convinced that the evidence will favor
the general findings about the aether presented by the Correas, Aspden, and
others, at the time of a similar sea of bigotry and ignorance. As with cold
fusion in its early two years, I am open to rejecting this evidence for a
new paradigm, if/when I find it flawed. But I find the evidence persuasive
at this time.
> Jeff
- Gene
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Subject: Re: Life in the Asylum
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:55:25 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Look at some of the messages forwarded to you just now -- in which I take
off the gloves against Rothwell and Kooistra whose new "saint" is Marett!!
> Dear Gene,
> Unfortunately, given the time we've had to devote to preparing to leave
the country, composing a proper response to Ed, organizing the video
(the place we went to screwed up the copying and it is - as we speak-
being redone for pick up tomorrow - but has obliged us to make 4
consecutive trips to the lakeshore area of Toronto!) - we have not had
much opportunity to write to you.
I know that, no need for concern. You need to focus on the tape and your
trip. Forget these lunatics on Vortex. It is good, however, that you
addressed Storms, unless/until he decides to join them.
>In any case, we hope you enjoyed the
letter to Ed and were able to chew on that a bit in the meantime.
It was more difficult than usual, but I read the first lengthy posting --
somehow the markers for reply and text replied [seem] to have disappeared in
transmission.
Whatever comes of this exchange, we both trust you will see with your
own eyes how (1) no serious discussion of ANYTHING could ever happen on
a group forum like Vortex because a minimum of seriousness and cool
headedness - as in the current exchange with Storms - is needed as
condition (yet it assures no positive outcome);
YES! That has been amply demonstrated!!
> (2) and how irrationally
armored against the realities of nature and senses even a good Christian
man, like Storms, is, let alone the band of veritable Worts in Vortex.
I do not know how much of a Christian he is. I would describe him as
attracted to eastern mysticism -- that was my impression. He is very
interested in India's Sai Baba, by the way! Well, I too am interested in a
man, Baba, who claims to materialize Timex watches -- I would have believed
it more had it been a Rolex :) I keep and open mind about even that -- but
not very...
> We have read your forwarded messages from Vortex and have found them
immensely amusing. They really are falling all over themselves to
demolish Correas, aren't they?
Yes, dear friends.
> If it was even just one hundred years
ago they would burn us, dear friend, and you too!
Yep.
> That's why gypsies
live in boats on wheels and are nomadic. As Malgosia said, it's like
watching non-stop reruns of the three stooges - Quinney, Marett and
Rothwell... -Ah, how exquisitely they suit each other!
Indeed, maybe I'll become a part-time nomad myself...Keep and open cabin for
me on the "boat" :)
> Yes somewhere
between the Three Stooges and a Keystone Cops routine. Every idiot
notion is dragged out of the barrel - attributed to the Correas - and
then is proudly debunked amidst much mutual cheering and backslapping.
We were almost in tears with Rothwell looking for 'Maratt' on our
website, while simultaneously commending Doug's outstanding character -
"It must be tough for him to reach this conclusion. He has guts!" -
Yes, that was wonderful...
> and then fighting with the horrors of "what on earth phrases such as
"Demeo's manicheistic Saharasianism," "Matrist savages" or "armored
patrist" might mean." Oh, this was really priceless. And to see these
idiots all roundly congratulating themselves on their "scientific
objectivity" - pure vaudeville of the insane!
A good name for a book -- "vaudeville of the insane"
> One could not be given a
greater gift of insight into how the minds of these truly pathological
characters actually work. Yes - the "enemy of my enemy is my friend".
This is precisely how these vindictive idiots align themselves.
I am learning more about these matters thanks to this blessed "gift" of a
demonstration of ignorance.
> Funniest of all was Marett now jumping to denounce Reich -
I will soon bring up on Vortex (at the right moment) some of Jed's "heroes"
-- e.g. Hideo Ikegami of Japan, who somewhat like Marett denounce a field
in which they once "believed"
>> "It is with much consternation that I must contradict myself and reverse
the Reichian line . . . [O]ver the past few years, I have been
improving my experimental technique and controls in order to better
understand Reich's phenomenon. In the case of To-T, better controls and
elimination of artifacts has instead led to the temperature difference
becoming vanishingly small. In the past 2 years, I have obtained negative
after negative result in Reich's experiments . . ."
> This is the consternation of those crocodile tears which Karl Moor
recognized as the expression of the emotional state of most human beings
and Dumas so exposed in his immortal Count of Monte Cristo: "ah race of
crocodiles that eats its own!" Yes, there is a delta T but Einstein was
right and I am no longer a Reichian! It was only in February last that,
with a very special twitching of his eyes (!) our crocodile boasted on
Ogg's Orgonomy Mail List that his excellent eyesight (he is actually
blind as a bat - his contact lenses and his glasses are at least a
quarter inch thick) permitted him to read - on mercury
thermometers - 0.01 degrees centigrade To-T differences, and now he
abjures his heresy because even his athletic achievement can be
explained by convection. It is a sublime performance truly worthy, or
just about, of the madness at the Charenton Asylum before de Sade was
inmated there, and conducted performances of his play ("The persecution
and assassination of Jean-Paul Marat [not Marett!] as performed by the
inmates of the asylum at Charenton under the direction of the Marquis de
Sade [not De Meo, ,who is neither a Marquis, nor a Count nor a
scientist, nor De Mayo who is not a whom but a clinic]"), which the
great playwright Peter Weiss immortalized in his play Marat-Sade (and
not Marett-Sad). This should keep your spirits up.
I am happy to see you in good humor about all this.
> Dear friend, we really hope that in these trying and dark hours where
stupidity reigns supreme, you will realize the real value of
friendship. We do!
Dear friends -- I do, I do, I do, I do....!!!!
> Will hopefully (!) have news on the video tomorrow.
I eagerly await news about it.
[snip]
Gene
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Subject: FW: Jed's comments on Reich's ORAC
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:09:39 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
He's like a bozo inflatable balloon toy that keeps coming back for more.
--Gene
------ Forwarded Message
From: Jed Rothwell
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 11:14:58 -0400
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Jed's comments on Reich's ORAC
Eugene F. Mallove wrote:
>> I can't find that section either. The index seems chaotic.
>Chaotic to you, but not to a careful, truly interested reader with some
familiarity (by study) with the history of Reich. . . .
An index is supposed to be a guide, not a secret code. An index which can
only be used by people who are already familiar with the subject and "truly
interested" is like a map that only makes sense to people who never get
lost.
Along the same lines, in a technical document neologisms and rare words not
defined in the dictionary such as "matrist" should always be defined in the
text the first time they are used. Such rules are found in any guide to
technical writing. An author who ignores such rules is either ignorant,
amateur, or he intends to alienate readers. (The rules do not apply to
literature such as "Ulysses.")
>You are an antagonistic dilettante in this area . . .
Correct. That is why I need a coherent table of contents and properly
defined terminology. Unless this document is only intended for people who
have already mastered the subject.
>I invite you and other readers to review the sorry history of Douglas
Marett's behavior in 1996. This may be found at:
http://www.aetherometry.com/pagd/CorreaReich.html
This document is not on line.
In any case, I cannot judge the technical issues in this field because the
terminology is meaningless to me, but it is clear to me that Marett is a
better experimentalist than Correa, and he has a much more lucid,
understandable, technically accurate way of expressing himself. I do not
need to judge the fine details of the dispute to see that Marett makes a
better case.
>You are a dilettante in this area from the word go. It is not gobbledygook.
If I am a dilettante it follows that the language must be gobbledygook to
me. Any technical paper about a subject one does not know is meaningless.
In this case, however, the technical terminology is not defined in any
dictionary or textbook I know of, or in the text, so I have no way to
reduce the gobbledygook quotient.
Marett's documents contain no gobbledygook, and I understand them without
difficulty, so it is possible to write about the experimental side of this
field without resorting to obscure, undefined technical terms. If the
Correas would run a properly designed test that proves the box produces
excess heat, they could describe this test with reference to standard
thermodynamics and calorimetry only, without mentioning their theory. I
would understand this description without difficulty.
>>Every technique has shortcomings and blind spots.
>Indeed. And the Correas have been exemplary in rooting as many of these
out as they can.
No, they have not. The only way to root out shortcomings is to use a
different instrument type and a different technique to measure the same
putative effect. This is science 101 -- the sort of thing they teach in
grade school. The Correas repeated the same experiment Reich did, with the
same inherent weaknesses. This is an amateur mistake.
Also, they have not done control experiments or calibrations, which is even
more amateur. They cannot say whether they are measuring 20 mW or 500 mW, a
fact which could be established in a few hours, in a project that has gone
for years. That is as far from "exemplary" as research can be.
>They are open to criticism, but only from those who examine their work
carefully, as you and Marett most certainly have not.
Marett only needs to study his own experiments, which are also close copies
of Reich's work. He saw the effect Reich saw, and he found the cause of it.
Correa's work is irrelevant to him.
It is possible that Marett saw only the effects of thermal stratification
and Correa is measuring something else, which is truly anomalous and
interesting. However, without control experiments or calibration, we have
no way to judge how big the apparent effect is, or what might account for
it.
- Jed
------ End of Forwarded Message
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Subject: Re: Reich's electroscopic anomaly
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 23:00:42 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Very good to hear from you. I was doing lots of landscaping with Joanne
today, trying to exercise and relax while being incensed at the Three
Stooges (or is it 4?) -- I have not even read their crap du jour yet. I
propose to send some combined missive to be titled, "The Three/Four Stooges
Meet the Aether."
Tomorrow I'll be 55. [snip]
> Dear Gene -
We would love to hear feedback from you and Ed on the last response.
I'll do that as soon as I can. It is good to see Ed asking questions and
taking matters seriously.
> Right now we're just busy with sundry matters before we leave on
Wednesday.
OK.
Some good news, by the way. I heard from Sandy Selman of Energy&Environment.
(The website was largely down due to a screw up by the ISP, which went out
of business.) Spoke to him for several hours. He has a remarkable contact
in Canada -- a Mr. Palmer -- who is a highly regarded paid consultant [for]
Ontario Hydro, that is OH regard him highly and want him to be an employee,
but he resists. I know, I know, you had problems with O.H. However, I think
since Palmer is not exactly attached to OH, there may be something useful
that can be worked out on funding PAGD, ABRI, etc. Selman will come to Bow
in about a month for further discussion of the overall new energy field. Of
course, I am pushing your work to the highest level.
> We have also written a long exposé of Rothwell and Vortex - including an
indepth section on the dynamics of gathering of a mob by bully boys.
But we have not yet completed it, and it appears we should just allow
this bubble of activity, still ongoing, to die down before we strike.
OK. Strike after I do, if you wish.
> Vaudeville of the insane would indeed be a good title; or equally -
Vortex - a forum for Worts, or Frothwell the Mother of all V(W?)orts...
My recommendation would be this: for tactical reasons, do not attack Vortex
per se (for there are good, sincere people in it who may be as disturbed
about such matters as have recently been exhibited). Attack the mob attacks
by ignorami, such as Marett, Rothwell, and Kooistra -- boy do I have stuff
planned for him!
> Aethera is largely in your and Uri's hands - if there are ways to
proceed that make sense, we should consider them. But you should know
that mere consideration or contemplation of the fundamental changes in
knowledge and method which our work suggests will always meet this same
kind of opposition from those who do not even adequately know the
accepted doctrine they purport to defend, gadget or no gadget, theory or
no theory, discovery or no discovery. They fear reading and knowing
itself. It is so indelibly Christian that it reminds one of all the
ancient world libraries Christendom so wantonly burned.
Perhaps you are right about this...
> Don't worry, we'll also deal with Marett when we come back. Right now,
it is actually quite excellent to see them frantically aligning
themselves and exploding for it is adding quite significantly to the
ammunition that can be turned against them - for the exposé, or even
better, for a legal confrontation - if we are able to find a firm
willing to take up the libel charges on contingency. Since Marett has
attacked our work publicly, on the OML and on Vortex, now publically
announcing his radical change of 'faith' in the last month (on Vortex,
that is, he hasn't yet confessed this terrible truth to his Reichian
fanclub) - and has mounted a second campaign as Rothwell's newfound
minion (like Kooistra) - we cannot but wonder if we do not indeed have a
way to get around to claim major financial damages (for ongoing
research) from this 'successful businessmen'. (You would have to admit
that it would be nothing short of poetic justice if it could be done.)
At this point I would very much agree!
> We'll see, when we get back from Europe.
On what day will you be back?
> It was also most telling to
see Douglas remark that Demeo had taken the trouble to send him a
complementary copy of the PP5 and that he now claims (in less than a
month flat!) to have been successfully replicating the mung bean
silliness with 'similar results'. (We don't have to imagine under what
conditions! In fact, we have no doubt that he'll even break Demeo's
length record for stressed out mung beans.) His simultaneous sorrow
with his disillusion with 'Dr. Reich's aether' for the Vortex crowd
benefit was nothing short of vintage Marett. You can now see his true
face in transparent splendor.
>>> Funniest of all was Marett now jumping to denounce Reich -
>> I will soon bring up on Vortex (at the right moment) some of Jed's "heroes"-- e.g.
Hideo Ikegami of Japan, who somewhat like Marett denounced a field in
which they once "believed".
> We would love to read that.
>> Jean Manning contacted me. She'll be in Germany to hear you and Harold and
others. She trusts my judgment of your work, but in her less tutored way
already began to have an affection for your work.
> She wrote us three days ago and we answered her two days ago but have
not heard from her since. She sent us some pictures of our work but
we were unable to open them, and alerted her to it. She stated she was
happy to see Reich's work taken away from control by The College of
Orgonomy.
>> She is a very good lady
whose comments in various media outlets and in her books are useful.
> We can only hope she has her head screwed on well now seeing the
dismaying performance of these Worts. The power they have is precisely
to garner weak souls with their smearing campaigns.
>> I do not know if you have ever met her.
> No, but we are looking forward to do so.
[snip]
The runaround with these videographic company has not yet stopped. Only
on Monday will we have the materials and the estimates! We will let you
know. How are the plans moving to change IE, recast a structure and
ditch Frothwell in the process?
Plans are rapidly moving ahead for the New Energy Foundation. I have been
gathering acceptances for possible people on the Board -- necessary under
the IRS code. Frothwell will not have anything to do with this, of course.
I have been in discussion with two law firms to find out which one best
suits the NEF format and me.
Ken Rauen as of Monday will be working half-time for Bill Zebuhr's Ovation
Products Corporation. He will increase his hours later this summer. We are
in the process of compressing the lab into our publishing area, which is a
good idea anyway. Zebuhr is a very impressive man and I do think there will
be a significant role for him in new energy. I'll send you an attachment
that describes his company -- using it for private PR purposes at this time.
> We hope you are weathering all this well. It is every bit as low and as
ignorant and as malicious and two-faced as we expected and nothing
short of grotesque to witness. If there's anything at all we regret in
all this, it's that so much of their idiot venom is also being directed
at you. Don't think for one minute that we are not very aware of what
you are doing for aetherometry - and at what cost.
Fear not. I would have it no other way. Only by confronting what exists
openly and without preconception is growth and dignity possible.
Now to read their trash before bed... Ugh!
> Through the flames,
Ad astra!
> Alex & Paulo
Gene
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Subject: The Three (or is it 4 or 5?) Stooges Meet the Aether
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 23:50:13 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Vortexians,
My, my how these scoundrels - Marett, Rothwell, and Kooistra -- do carry on,
re-writing history, falsifying science -- applauding trash and degrading the
good and the difficult which is beyond them. Even altering my credentials,
publication record and work history (Kooistra)! It's known as projection, I
think. I just knew there had to be some subtle connection in intellectual
caliber and integrity between Kooistra and DoE's John Huizenga -- after all,
they both went Calvin College! "Or shut up," indeed, Jed. You'll be shut
up yourself, quite soundly.
This Vortex effluent is really quite amusing. It will be fertile material
for a good number of critiques -- and they are coming. But for today,
because it happens to be the weekend of my birthday, and while relaxing with
some overdue landscaping and work with humus-manure mixtures, I've had quite
enough dealing with bullshit for one day than to get a triple dose on
Vortex. I'll just pause and let these little midgets amuse themselves and
add to the pile of material for The Stooges Meet the Aether. When to expect
it? Just wait. Perhaps it will be a good long wait -- or maybe a short
one. It depends on my taste and spare time and how much effluent it makes
sense to filter. This forum has become a cesspool. I simply must allow
some time for serious work -- not wasteful, though interesting, cleanup after
the Stooges' Vortex mouthings. I need to carefully consider and digest the
appalling nonsense and deception that has oozed all over this place these
days.
Cheers...
Gene Mallove
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Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!!
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 21:35:59 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex, Paulo, and Malgosia,
How fine to receive this greeting!
> Dear Gene,
> Happy Birthday!! We hope you and Joanne are enjoying an excellent day gazing
in pride, no doubt at your handiwork of yesterday - and celebrating 'in the
usual fashion' - as used to be said in polite company!
Hmmm... :)
> A small (very small) birthday joke, in case you did not see it, is that Marett
has just suddenly yanked his pro-Reich website and announces he will now mount
an anti-Reich one.
I just saw it. I am eager to learn more systematically about this Marett
twin's travels. Is is not quite damning that his own brother Dave, while he
was still playing straight with you anyway, had contempt for him? Please
fill me in on this particular aspect that puzzles me. What was/is the
relationship between the brothers?
> This should most certainly please the Warts. Even more
disingenuously, he is using a number of the problems with Reich's
interpretation of the electroscopic anomalies we raised (for the first time)
in our monographs - which we think we told you he sneakily purchased under
his wife's name - (no we did not fail to notice! He even craftily did it
while visiting his wife's family in Australia to hide himself even further.
Poor silly sod.) which he would never in a million years have noticed on his
own - but now intends (as his most recent letter to Vortex makes clear) to
twist our arguments to suit his newfound Rothwellian club affiliates.
I trust that you will expose this in your forthcoming attack?
> He says today - "On another note, I think I am likely going to withdraw the
articles on my terrapulse.ca website until I have had a chance to
properly explain on that site why I think the data in them might better be
explained by conventional physics." (We checked. The site is, in fact,down!)
This is, by the way, throwing the Ogg Reich Club into complete disarray - which
is also quite amusing to observe. All the babies are falling out of bed.
Now what will Demeo do with his newfound 'skeptic' friend who also grows
marvelous mung beans inside accumulators that -??
Demeo will have problems.
> His shinning comfort in the superiority of the conventional view - " don't
take my word for it, just check any textbook."
So there it is. The usual Marett idiocies. Whatever Correas are doing -
I hate it.
And so it goes too with slanderer of so many Rothwell, but disguised, of
course, in pieties of "let us be civil, Gene, or we will filter you"!!!
> On another note, we don't know about you, but we were completely disgusted
with Ed's last letter. We felt we were suddenly in the company of Pastor Ed
who, at great personal cost, was lowering himself to lead wayward sheep back
to the fold...
Am dreading reading it.
>Quite stunning was that he took the trouble to say "I will
take the liberty of deleting those sections upon which we agree or when we
have ended our discussion for whatever reason in order to keep this exchange
from growing too long." - when, in fact, what he deleted were some of the
most critical challenges of our entire text made to him and which he simply
decided to ignore/erase!! Sorry, Gene, but these constant references to
"our belief", drawing absurd conclusions from what we have said to imply we
have said something completely different - and idiotic - is not the way
a serious person who is interested in a subject goes about attempting to
hold a coherent discussion. It was disrespectful, condescending and downright
rude. It is hard for us to believe he can actually be this thick. So, we
are now forced to very much wonder exactly which forces are working in the
background here. Is it simply his own pigheaded rigid adherence to simplistic
textbook training psychology; the influence of the frenetic Warts; or
something still other - from the stagnant mists of Los Alamos?
It was interesting your reference to DoE's John Huizenga yesterday. Only the
day before, someone from the DoE was on our site for several hours for the
first time...
I just think he does not have the intellectual strength to try to bridge the
chasm -- cold fusion is too much for him already.
> It is unclear whether we will finish our response to Ed [Storms] before we leave.
There is so much to do (how Ed likes to behave as though only he has 'better
things to do than learn any thing about aetherometry'! As if we might not
have better things to do than to teach someone who is too busy to read
carefully or to want to find out for themselves!!)- but we will try.
If we do, we may send it first to you before sending to you and he together.
OK, please do. I am catching up on the previous exchanges - -learning much
from your tutorials.
> Anyway - we will speak of all this later...
In the meantime, a most excellent 55th to you! [snip]
A very, very big hug to you Gene - we all will lift our glasses to you
tonight in a toast - may you have many more, and better and more joyous
and hopefully - without all these Warts at the gate !
Thank you, but not having Warts at the gate seems almost too much to hope
for!
> Our very best to you -
> Alex & Paulo - & Malgosia!
Good cheer to my friends,
Gene
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Subject: Re: Re the Storms reply - and what is likely our last stance
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 23:40:59 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Indeed, delighted to see your impressive stream of correspondence again --
marvelous that you are back! I am tired myself from much moving and
compressing of the lab facility. I'll get to more detailed responses
tomorrow. BUT FIRST -- what I believe to be a very good letter and
associated description of their capabilities -- from Sandy Selman. See
attached items. I hope you like these. Give it some careful consideration,
because I think these are serious folk with financial strength in their
Rolodexes...
> Dear Gene -
We have not heard from you yet, but in the meantime have written what will
likely be our last response to Storms. It had to be simply as tough as it is. We
are tired of serving cared-for dishes to whiners that cannot get off the couch and
do their basic homework, whether they have credentials or lack them being beside
the point.
So, after reading Storms' last reply we realized that our eager words to you from
yesterday were simply that - too eager and hopeful of a dialogue that was
worth maintaining. On the contrary, we found that our intuition was right and that
we should have left those two terminal paragraphs in in our previous response.
Anyway, there it is for all it is worth.
I was not at all happy with Storms' attitude. It was marginal at best. He
does not deserve freebies. If he is not interested enough to pay, forget
him...
> We still do not know whether you have a copy of the last response from Storms.
Please let us know. We'll copy you, as usual, on our reply to him.
I believe I do have it.
> Hoping all is well with you -
Tired, but well. And much left to do, but headed in the right direction now.
So is it Panama definitely?
All best,
Gene
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Subject: Re: Correa discussion
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:29:36 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Edmund Storms
CC: Paulo Correa
Dear Ed,
> Dear Gene, I expect by now you have had a chance to read the exchange
between me and the Correas.
Yes, I have, in considerable detail.
> I'm interested in learning your impression of their response.
It saddens me to have to tell you this, but it is they, not you who appear
to be entirely forthcoming, logical, and clear in their responses. As a
result of their admirable attempts to set you on the right course of at
least understanding what they are contending, there are times in the dialog
that you almost seem to "get it," then for some indefinable reason you
recoil and get back into psychological discussions of justifying your
motives, etc. -- reverting to a Rothwellian-like suspicion of their motives
toward YOU!
Above all, you persist in a strange loop of non-understanding,
misunderstanding, or some other indefinable state. It puzzles me and saddens
me. It is not as though I know EVERYTHING that the Correas know -- far from
it! (based on reading and studying their published monographs), and would
have been prepared to coach you as they have done, but I do clearly follow
their responses and find that you remain mired in confusion. (This has been
helpful to MY deeper understanding of their work, so the dialog between you
and them has not been in vain, even if it ends.) Indeed, you seem to want to
reduce their pioneering work to the conventional -- as when you cannot
conceive that an electroscopic leaf (and its constituents) not moving upward
can be said to be "doing work." They have reiterated and explained the
microscopic/molecular point of view and you almost seem to have gotten it --
then you revert to the conventional nonsense of the glib macroscopic view of
"no work is done if the leaf does not move upward." Amazing!
Can you not try to "suspend disbelief" long enough to learn their entire
EXPERIMENTALLY BASED world view -- by accepting their conclusions as you
proceed though the monographs and read about new concrete experiments that
you and others could perform - much more straightforward than CF
experiments, by the way? Perhaps then you would see the complete picture and
agree that their physics is a tremendous, bold attempt at penetrating the
non-workable myths of modern physics. I believe you probably have two
failings that are holding you back:
A. You are not already sufficiently impressed by the depravity of currently
accepted physics -- relativity and quantum mechanics and the evident flaws
that are becoming more glaring with each epicyclic day! I can understand
that you probably have not had time to study what many others -- apart from
the Correas -- have said about this. I have tried to publish such material
in IE. I urge you to examine it. The establishment itself agrees, as you
well know, that accepted GR gravity and quantum mechanics have yet to be
satisfactorily reconciled. It says that it hopes to do it -- just give them
a few more billion dollars for high energy experiments.... I would hope that
that fact alone would impress you and motivate you to learn about a
Copernican-like revolution in thinking -- namely what the Correas are
proposing. It may not be all correct -- but it is an honest, experimentally
based attempt to set things right.
B. You do not take seriously enough MY testimony about what I saw and
observed and measured in the Correa laboratory. I trust that you did read my
two "Letters of Support" on their website? The first letter was published
in full in IE #39 in my editorial.
If you really did give me the benefit of credibility on point "B" -- I would
think that you would be powerfully motivated to study as much of the Correa
work as possible. (I admit that you'd be even more motivated had you
witnessed the experiments yourself, but at least trust that I am an honest
reporter.) After all, I have put my credibility on line -- as I did in 1991
concerning cold fusion -- and stated that they have working free energy
devices and antigravity demonstrations. Do you think there is the slightest
chance of fraud or gross misunderstanding on my or their part? What would
the Correas gain by this, other than a useless PR barrage? Clearly, you
understand that they are highly intelligent and coherent in their
discussions with you -- even if you resist them or cannot understand them.
So, do you think for one minute that the alleged (by me) aether motors are a
product of fraud or insanity? The infamous Rothwell does, in his libelous
statements on Vortex. Perhaps some of this disgraceful, ignorant propaganda
from him has rubbed off on you. I take that as quite possible, though I hope
it has not happened.
>I'm at a loss to know how to interact with them in a productive way.
Perhaps the only productive way will be for you to download further modules
and study them on your own nickel and time. I strongly urge you to do so
for reasons that might become increasingly evident to you as you read them.
There ARE direct implications for cold fusion. These are not spelled out as
cold fusion-related, of course. But it is clear that the anomalous
performance of Geiger-Muller tubes, as an example, should be of interest to
you, no? It is clear that if the aether can "materialize" electrons de-novo
in certain circuitry (without conservation of energy being violated), that
this aspect of nature just "might" be of importance to cold fusion!!!
> Do you have any suggestions?
My suggestions is that you systematically go over their published material.
Certainly the downloading fees should not be an insuperable obstacle. Use my
Vortex-posted memorandum as a guide, perhaps.
> More to the point, do you think it is worth the effort?
Not only do I think it is worth the effort, I think it is ESSENTIAL to YOUR
future progress within science. We already know that "science" (the
scientific establishment) has failed miserably to deal with cold fusion. Do
you seriously believe that cold fusion is the ONLY physics area that the
scientific tyranny has squashed? If it can do to cold fusion in 13 years
what it has done, think about what it can do to the Truth -- HAS DONE --
with over a century! Think about that. I will regret it very much if the
cold fusion community, and YOU are an exemplar of it, does not deal with
larger physics issues that I believe are likely to be critical to the
understanding of LENR. (Certainly Jed Rothwell is not an exemplar of the
cold fusion field, by the way -- he is a shoot-from-the-hip guy who does not
understand science 101; he's a very close cousin of Robert Park whether he
admits it or not, as his recent Vortex blathering against the Correas,
Mills, and others has proved. I do not associate him with you, other than
his recent very modest financial support of your work. He's in it NOT for
scientific understanding but to "make money" and to "help save humanity" --
as he freely admits.)
You wrote at one place:
"Jed is perhaps too judgmental and too frank about his personal opinions.
This is his nature and should not be taken personally."
That is an extreme understatement, I find. If Jed had said the same things
about cold fusion as he did about the Correas, you would not have said that
such remarks "should not be taken personally."
At another point you write to the Correas:
>> If you have a real demonstrable discovery, I'm more than willing to learn
about it and tell the world.
The Correas' reaction to statements like these is justified:
>You actually give the impression
that your desire to know our work is nonexistent, more like a favour you
might be paying us if we manage to convince you of the correctness of our
observations, concepts, discoveries, etc.
Yes, there is a strange condescending-like tonality to some of your remarks
even if that was NOT what you intended to project. I took it that way as did
the Correas.
You and I have different backgrounds and emphases. It just may be that
studying an "enlarged physics" is not your interest or forte. It may be
that for now you will simply continue your exemplary experimental and
publishing work in LENR, and that is fine with me. That is enough for one
life! But, again, I do believe you and cold fusion as well would profit
from what the Correas have to offer.
Thank you, as always, for sharing your thoughts and feelings with me.
Best wishes,
Gene
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Subject: Re: Your recent mail
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:53:35 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
> Dear Gene,
We apologize for not having written for a few days.
And in return, I apologize too -- just too consumed by work and intensity in
making new arrangements.
> It's been almost
impossible to get near the computer. Nevertheless, we have been seeing
your mail coming in - and thank you very much for it. We also don't
know exactly what the Strong connection means - but it is curious that
it keeps resurfacing in different forms. Strong is certainly someone
who could gather together what is needed - if he chose to do so. The
same, we think, cannot be said for OPG. Our letter to Selman was sent,
but Uri (who leaves tomorrow) told us today that Selman has not yet
attempted to contact him.
Selman has signed the NDA and the package went to him Fedex. I will contact
him soon for feedback.
>> The New Energy Foundation (non-profit), now in formation
> Excellent. Is it taking a shape that is agreeable to you?
It is emerging slowly. Today I had my first conversation with C.E.'s Bert
Gordon money manager, who is asking the right questions. I'm confident it is
going to happen the way I wish.
> Have you gathered the requisite board members yet?
Yes. Five excellent people have agreed: Me. Bill Zebuhr. Rick Broussard
(Editor of New Hampshire Magazine), Mark Aldrich, and Atty. Jim Kazan (a
Temple Beth Jacob friend who has been fascinated by my (and YOUR) work).
> What stage is it at? And have you finished all the box moving now?
Lab is 99% moved. Even managed to get the chemical fume hood moved today
with professional movers.
>We were going to recommend
that if you got tired of carrying them, you could just hold them
stationary over your head and rest for a while...(:
Got it!
> On Rothwell & Co.
>> I had no time for that. It will be done some day. It is not a priority for
me to deal publicly with these jerks. I have other ways in which I intend
to destroy them all.
> Needless to say we are all quite curious as to your envisioned method to
effect this glorious deed...
By financial success for us all, followed by scientific, technological, and
publication success, which I am determined to achieve.
>WE had hoped to have finished our diatribe
with Rothwell & Co. by now, but it seems it might take a little while longer.
Good. I am eager to see it posted. I have not ruled out doing mine at some
point, it is just that now is not the right time. I will get in the right spirit soon enough.
> Len Danczyk [Energetics Technology] has also been back in touch with us - after having
finally broken down and purchased some of the monographs. He is pressing Uri
for another meeting - which clearly will not be feasible until Uri
returns - but we doubt there is much reason to hold our breath. We all
think (Uri included) that he is up to something, and that he has no investors at all.
I have not heard this name before.
> Without this being any reflection on your recent meetings or on how
perfect a candidate for Aethera this Jonathan Bonanno may be - you may
imagine the endless succession of jokes his name has provoked over
here.
I am sure :) But he has turned out to be a simply marvelous fellow. He
asks many, many right questions. He is definitely connected to great wealth
and has significant wealth himself. I am leading him the right directions
on a number of fronts, but he is just one person. There will be more...
> Well, we might as well ask, did you ask him whether or not he is
by any chance related to the illustrious Bonanno family of Mafia fame?!?
Genetically perhaps :) I went to 2nd grade with one Paul Bonanno who
became, like my father, a plumber.
> Has he made any further moves?
Yes, we interested him in the excellent technology at Bill Zebuhr's company,
Ovation Products -- (let me attach my description of Bill's work).
> What does he do in Barcelona?
He is just there for half a year -- he founded a company there dealing with
financial billing matters. Mundane stuff. I'll dig up his web site for it
-- on a card that I think I left at work.
> Now, as to your letter to Ed. In our opinion, it was simply excellent.
Your perception of what happened in these interchanges matches ours -
precisely.
He replied back to me and I scanned it only briefly. It was a another turn
off so I basically told him that I was leaving the conversation. This is
what I sent back -- his last paragraph is included:
*****
>> You and I have different backgrounds and emphases. It just may be that
studying an "enlarged physics" is not your interest or forte. It may be
that for now you will simply continue your exemplary experimental and
publishing work in LENR, and that is fine with me. That is enough for one
life! But, again, I do believe you and cold fusion as well would profit
from what the Correas have to offer.
> If this is your belief, why don't you help me understand what they have
discovered and show me how it relates to LENR?
Regards,
Ed
Dear Ed,
I think I have tried long enough and I have failed to make you understand
the possible relationship -- through generalizations of the Correa work.
There is a profound, resistant miscommunication. Perhaps I will resume my
efforts later, perhaps not. We shall see.
For now, this topic and your inability to react to it the way I had hoped
and would have expected is evidently an unproductive direction for us both,
so for now I will just take leave of this debate between you and the
Correas. I am truly surprised and disappointed that you would not want to
explore the material on your own. It is rich with possibilities. By
contrast, as important as LENR is, I hope that somehow you will come to
realize that it is a mere epiphenomenon of a larger matter: the complete
mismatch of modern "accepted physics" to deal with a plethora of unexplained
phenomena -- basic physics, cosmology, biology, medicine, psychokinetic
discoveries (R. Jahn et al) -- it goes on and on. I do not think that LENR
will ever be explained by the current accepted physics. AND, we will be
lucky, indeed, if LENR turns out to be useful technologically from empirical
studies alone.
The Correas, having shown me essentially irrefutable evidence of the
efficacy of their theory, impress me as being on the right path. I will
continue to study their work.
Best,
Gene
****
[Back to Gene's email to the Correas:]
> As when you stated
>> Above all, you persist in a strange loop of non-understanding,
misunderstanding, or some other indefinable state. (...) They have
reiterated and explained the
microscopic/molecular point of view and you almost seem to have gotten it --
then you revert to the conventional nonsense of the glib macroscopic view of
"no work is done if the leaf does not move upward." Amazing!
> Your comments regarding Rothwell were well phrased and placed, and to the
point. And it was most interesting to learn through your letter that
Jed has been providing Ed with some financial backing.
Only for some equipment for him to perform Les Case-type experiments in a
Seebeck calorimeter.
>This was news to us, although only a few days prior to receiving your mail, Paulo had on
several occasions wondered outloud if Ed were not perhaps receiving funds from Jed.
It is not continuing funding, but I believe it was for $20,000. Jed has
NEVER provided anything like that for me. I seem to recall a few thousand
dollars here and there in the early 1990s when I was desperate. Jed waits
for others to fund things. He is not generous with his money.
> To have discovered this little piece of information
only confirms all the more that our decision not to provide Ed free
access to our writings was exactly the right decision. If he or Jed
wish to read the monographs, at least one of them will have to pay for them.
Indeed.
> If Ed had been the least bit honest with us, he should have
stated clearly and openly that this relation between himself and
Rothwell existed instead of coyly dancing around the issue when it was
raised. In any case, we loved your letter. It was quite perfect.
Naturally, we would like to know if/how he might choose to answer it.
I will later look over his full reply and forward it to you if it makes
sense and is not too obnoxious.
> We received a rather odd letter from a James Michael (Jim) Dugan on the
Akronos mail who claims to be a businessman from Orlando, Florida and
said he had been avidly reading the material on the site for the last
few days. He wrote:
"While it seems as though you've heard everything under the sun and, of
course, have had many with great intentions, I have a strong interest in
seeing that your research continues and am requesting information as to
generally what is needed at this time, in the short term, and in the long term.
Financially, I may be of great assistance to you."
We have no idea what he wants - he seems to be behind some advertising
franchise in the US called "EyeCatcherPlus" and to also be involved in a
publically traded penny stock company called New Millennium Media
International (NMMI). We will contact him in the very near future to
try to determine whether or not there is anything there of interest.
Seems unlikely.
> We also met a rather strange fellow here in Toronto just before we left
who seems to be making tremendous amounts of money in the computer data
storage racket who expressed a strong interest in learning more about
our work and perhaps having an interest in funding it. We also intend
to sound him out a little further, maybe this week.
Good. Let me know what happens. Like selling a house, acquiring funding is
an odds game.
[snip]
> We think this is about all the news we have for the moment. Let us know how you are - we hope you are having some of this exquisite weather this
weekend that we are having up here. Malgosia said it was fairly
dreadful while we were away - either raining nonstop or hideously hot
and humid.
Yes, that's what it was -- damn that aether!
> But today it is beautiful - blue skies, high pressure, a
light wind and altogether agreeable. We hope you and Joanne are also
enjoying it.
We are enjoying it while fighting over techniques in landscaping -- the
margins of how mulch should meet grass...:) We're feisty and opinionated.
> Until soon,
Alex & Paulo
All good wishes,
Gene
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Subject: Storms' full response to me + My #44 editorial
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:21:51 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Here, as promised, is the full response to me by Storms, after which I gave my brief letter of reply that was sent to you. This will be useful to understand his confused mindset. However, I think it best if you would not let him know that I sent this to you, even though he probably suspects I have. What do you think?
I have had no further communications from Storms. He is not worthwhile pursuing. He, like Rothwell, is blind and narrowly channeled. He THINKS he is being open, but he is not. Implicitly he is devaluing my opinion and judgment. And, he is not willing to do any hard work to understand -- even to the extent of ordering say another module to see if he could better understand it!
Even though you may resist it, I suggest again a "small project" for you that I once mentioned: An essay, in general and specific terms for IE, critiquing the quandary that the CF field finds itself in because it is unwilling, in general, to consider an enlarged domain of physics or that mainstream physics has serious flaws. [ This would turn out to be "The Correa solution to the Cold Fusion enigma" (2004), unfortunately published only after Gene's murder. ] My editorial in the next issue, "The Boundaries of Cold Fusion" addresses that matter -- see attached Quark file. What you would write would be more specific, perhaps. Just a thought. It would be an opportunity to take some shots at Kooistra/Storms and Rothwell for what they have said publicly and privately, no?
All best,
Gene
------ Forwarded Message
From: Edmund Storms
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:04:34 -0600
To: Eugene F. Mallove
Subject: Re: Correa discussion
Gene, I'm truly flabbergasted by your response. I know you believe the Correas
have discovered something important and I know you value their friendship.
In spite of these factors, I can not understand how you can arrive at the
conclusion you give here. First of all, I started out trying to understand
what they mean by what they say. To do this, I would paraphrase what I understand
their words to mean. In response, I discovered that not only did they not agree
that the paraphrase was correct, but expressed outrage that I would think
such a thing. When they then attacked my motives and my skills in understanding
science, I responded in an attempt to correct these misinterpretations of my
motives. When someone uses a word or phrases that makes no sense, how do
you discover what the person means? Asking for clarification or using a
paraphrase is not a rejection of the idea.
Gradually, I discovered that they do not use words in ways as normal science
uses them. Consequently, I would try to translate their meaning into words
I can understand. Here again, I would be blocked by their taking this effort
as being an insult. I'm truly surprised that you do not see this process at
work. Once again, I want to emphasis [sic] that not understand [sic] how a word is being used is not a rejection of the idea being expressed. For example, if a person uses
the word "work" I expect they mean a process normally associated with this word.
If they mean something else, they should either use a different word or explain
clearly how the work they are describing differs from the conventional
process. Apparently, they mean a flow of energy that can not be detected by any
means, which is generated by an annihilation of gravitons. [ The reader should note the glorious extent of this man's ignorance: the molecular concept of work had long been at odds with the macroscopic concept - well before we wrote our seminal paper (the first in Experimental Aetherometry) on the work performed by the electroscope leaves. For a formal treatment, see our 2008 paper on the nature of work.
Further, what is spent in this electroscopic work is the kinetic energy of massbound charges. It is used to cancel the action of the local gravitational field. There is no "energy generated by an annihilation of gravitons"! The action of gravitons is cancelled by the consumption of kinetic energy. ] They come to this
conclusion only because they can not understand how a constant force can be
generated to hold the leaf apart. [ ...a disembodied constant force that consumes no energy... Talk about metaphysical faith, not science! ] Now, if this is what they believe, which I'm still not sure of, I can or can not reject the idea. If this is what they mean,
then for me to believe the assertion, they need to show me more evidence. I
would have been willing to listen. However, their reaction is so rejecting that
I'm afraid that if I said the earth were round, they would give me a reason
why it isn't.
"Eugene F. Mallove" wrote:
> Dear Ed,
>> Dear Gene, I expect by now you have had a chance to read the exchange
between me and the Correas.
> Yes, I have, in considerable detail.
>> I'm interested in learning your impression of their response.
> It saddens me to have to tell you this, but it is they, not you who appear
to be entirely forthcoming, logical, and clear in their responses. As a
result of their admirable attempts to set you on the right course of at
least understanding what they are contending, there are times in the dialog
that you almost seem to "get it," then for some indefinable reason you
recoil and get back into psychological discussions of justifying your
motives, etc. -- reverting to a Rothwellian-like suspicion of their motives
toward YOU!
Gene, I do not have to have suspicions about their motives toward me. They
have been very clear that they do not trust my objectivity, they do not think I'm
willing to understand their assertions, and they think me insulting. I do
not understand how you would not understand what they have so clearly stated.
> Above all, you persist in a strange loop of non-understanding,
misunderstanding, or some other indefinable state. It puzzles me and saddens
me. It is not as though I know EVERTHING that the Correas know -- far from
it! (based on reading and studying their published monographs), and would
have been prepared to coach you as they have done, but I do clearly follow
their responses and find that you remain mired in confusion. (This has been
helpful to MY deeper understanding of their work, so the dialog between you
and them has not been in vain, even if it ends.) Indeed, you seem to want to
reduce their pioneering work to the conventional -- as when you cannot
conceive that an electroscopic leaf (and its constituents) not moving upward
can be said to be "doing work." They have reiterated and explained the
microscopic/molecular point of view and you almost seem to have gotten it --
then you revert to the conventional nonsense of the glib macroscopic view of
"no work is done if the leaf does not move upward." Amazing!
As I said above, the meaning of the word "work" is very clear in conventional
science. They apparently do not mean to apply that meaning to their
observations. When I attempt to understand their concept, I get a strange
collection of words which need to be further defined. It is almost as if we
are talking two different languages, but using the same English words.
After several exchanges, they tell me gravitons and antigravitons are involved.
At that point, I finally understood how "work" was being done. Unfortunately,
the "work" is not in the macroworld where it can be used. Perhaps, you can tell
me how they intend to measure and use this "work".
> Can you not try to "suspend disbelief" long enough to learn their entire
EXPERIMENTALLY BASED world view -- by accepting their conclusions as you
proceed though the monographs and read about new concrete experiments that
you and others could perform - much more straightforward than CF
experiments, by the way? Perhaps then you would see the complete picture and
agree that their physics is a tremendous, bold attempt at penetrating the
non-workable myths of modern physics. I believe you probably have two
failings that are holding you back:
A. You are not already sufficiently impressed by the depravity of currently
accepted physics -- relativity and quantum mechanics and the evident flaws
that are becoming more glaring with each epicyclic day! I can understand
that you probably have not had time to study what many others -- apart from
the Correas -- have said about this. I have tried to publish such material
in IE. I urge you to examine it. The establishment itself agrees, as you
well know, that accepted GR gravity and quantum mechanics have yet to be
satisfactorily reconciled. It says that it hopes to do it -- just give them
a few more billion dollars for high energy experiments.... I would hope that
that fact alone would impress you and motivate you to learn about a
Copernican-like revolution in thinking -- namely what the Correas are
proposing. It may not be all correct -- but it is an honest, experimentally
based attempt to set things right.
I agree that physics has its errors and limitations. However, any progress
must be based on a clear understanding and a clear explanation of what is proposed.
A collection of important sounding words that have no logical connection and no
agreed upon meaning is not going to get us anywhere. As for experiment, I read
their one paper and found so many logical conflicts and errors in expression
that I could not determine what they concluded. My efforts at trying to
discover their meaning was met by insult and questions about my motives.
> B. You do not take seriously enough MY testimony about what I saw and
observed and measured in the Correa laboratory. I trust that you did read my
two "Letters of Support" on their website? The first letter was published
in full in IE #39 in my editorial.
I read your letters and it was these that caused me to invest the time in this
effort. Without your testimony I would not have tried to understand their
confusing descriptions. This is why I have turned to you for help to understand
how to learn the truth of their claims. Your reaction to my request makes me
doubt that any reality is to be found.
> If you really did give me the benefit of credibility on point "B" -- I would
think that you would be powerfully motivated to study as much of the Correa
work as possible. (I admit that you'd be even more motivated had you
witnessed the experiments your self, but at least trust that I am an honest
reporter.) After all, I have put my credibility on line -- as I did in 1991
concerning cold fusion -- and stated that they have working free energy
devices and antigravity demonstrations. Do you think there is the slightest
chance of fraud or gross misunderstanding on my or their part? What would
the Correas gain by this, other than a useless PR barrage? Clearly, you
understand that they are highly intelligent and coherent in their
discussions with you -- even if you resist them or cannot understand them.
If they were coherent I would understand them. That is the issue. I'm trying
as best I can to get them to be "coherent". Their "coherence" seems not to
allow many people to understand them. Because you can understand them, I had
hoped you could at least put what they want to say into understandable English.
Instead, you seem to indicate that only you and they understand the new
science, and people who do not understand are nonobjective and stupid.
> So, do you think for one minute that the alleged (by me) aether motors are a
product of fraud or insanity? The infamous Rothwell does, in his libelous
statements on Vortex. Perhaps some of this disgraceful, ignorant propaganda
from him has rubbed off on you. I take that as quite possible, though I hope
it has not happened.
They may very will have found a method to extract energy from some
unconventional source. Seeing such a demonstration, as you have done, would
help. However, in the absence of such an experience, I can only go by what they
say. What they say makes no sense, not because I reject the possibility of
unconventional energy, but because they are not clear or logical. I hope you
can see the difference between these two issues.
>> I'm at a loss to know how to interact with them in a productive way.
> Perhaps the only productive way will be for you to download further modules
and study them on your own nickel and time. I strongly urge you to do so
for reasons that might become increasingly evident to you as you read them.
There ARE direct implications for cold fusion. These are not spelled out as
cold fusion-related, of course. But it is clear that the anomalous
performance of Geiger-Muller tubes, as an example, should be of interest to
you, no? It is clear that if the aether can "materialize" electrons de-novo
in certain circuitry (without conservation of energy being violated), that
this aspect of nature just "might" be of importance to cold fusion!!!
I asked them if they would make the information available at no charge. They
said no. So, I now have to invest my time in trying to understand what they
mean while also spending my money. I have read new and unconventional ideas
express [sic] by authors I enjoyed reading, and would gladly pay to read more. In
the case of the Correas, what I have read is actually a painful experience because
the flow of assertions is so confused and poorly expressed. I do not want to
pay for more of the same. Also, they are apparently unwilling to give up the
money to have me understand what they have discovered. This makes me wonder
how much interest they have in being believed. As you notice, I put all that I
have done on CF out for anyone to read for free because I want the phenomenon to
be believed!
>> Do you have any suggestions?
> My suggestions is that you systematically go over their published material.
Certainly the downloading fees should not be an insuperable obstacle. Use my
Vortex-posted memorandum as a guide, perhaps.
>> More to the point, do you think it is worth the effort?
> Not only do I think it is worth the effort, I think it is ESSENTIAL to YOUR
future progress within science. We already know that "science" (the
scientific establishment) has failed miserably to deal with cold fusion. Do
you seriously believe that cold fusion is the ONLY physics area that the
scientific tyranny has squashed?
No, not at all. I agree that many areas have been rejected. However, I
have not gotten the impression from my dealings with the Correas that they are going to be the instrument of change.
> If it can do to cold fusion in 13 years
what it has done, think about what it can do to the Truth -- HAS DONE --
with over a century! Think about that. I will regret it very much if the
cold fusion community, and YOU are an exemplar of it, does not deal with
larger physics issues that I believe are likely to be critical to the
understanding of LENR. (Certainly Jed Rothwell is not an exemplar of the
cold fusion field, by the way -- he is a shoot-from-the-hip guy who does not
understand science 101; he's a very close cousin of Robert Park whether he
admits it or not, as his recent Vortex blathering against the Correas,
Mills, and others has proved. I do not associate him with you, other than
his recent very modest financial support of your work. He's in it NOT for
scientific understanding but to "make money" and to "help save humanity" --
as he freely admits.)
I do not wish to get into your fight with Jed. However, as you admit, I have a
reputation for being a good scientist and accepting novel ideas such as cold
fusion. If this is your sincere belief, then I would think you would find my
difficulty in understanding the Correas important and perhaps an indication
of a more serious problem, rather than my being influenced by Jed.
> You wrote at one place:
"Jed is perhaps too judgmental and too frank about his personal opinions.
This is his nature and should not be taken personally."
That is an extreme understatement, I find. If Jed had said the same things
about cold fusion as he did about the Correas, you would not have said that
such remarks "should not be taken personally."
At another point you write to the Correas:
"If you have a real demonstrable discovery, I'm more than willing to learn
about it and tell the world."
The Correa reaction to statements like these is justified:
>> You actually give the impression
that your desire to know our work is nonexistent, more like a favour you
might be paying us if we manage to convince you of the correctness of our
observations, concepts, discoveries, etc.
Yes, there is a strange condescending-like tonality to some of your remarks
even if that was NOT what you intended to project. I took it that way as did
the Correas.
The fact of the matter is that for a new discovery to have any usefulness to the
world or bring the originators any benefits, people must believe the
assertions. Naturally the process of spreading the belief starts with a few
people. You, for example, are one of the first. You caused me to get
interested. If I start to believe, I tell other people who will take a look and
start to believe. This is the way the belief in CF is spreading, although in
this case, many people are producing information and giving an understanding,
all for free. In the case of the Correas, most people who read their work or
listen to them talk, come away totally confused, like Jed. If you or they want
anyone to take the work seriously, you need to convince more people that the
work is worthwhile. If not me, then someone who has a sufficient reputation
to be heard. On the other hand, if the Correas don't care about anyone
believing them, then they are free to explore their work as a hobby until someone who
can explain and demonstrate their discovery comes along and gets credit for the
discovery. This the way the world works. Rather than finding such a statement
insulting, I would be joyful if someone expressed an interest in my work and
really wanted to know what I had discovered. I would go to great lengths to
explain every detail and misunderstanding as long as they showed an
interest, as I have demonstrated with Zimmerman, Blue, and Shanahan.
> You and I have different backgrounds and emphases. It just may be that
studying an "enlarged physics" is not your interest or forte. It may be
that for now you will simply continue your exemplary experimental and
publishing work in LENR, and that is fine with me. That is enough for one
life! But, again, I do believe you and cold fusion as well would profit
from what the Correas have to offer.
If this is your belief, why don't you help me understand what they have
discovered and show me how it relates to LENR?
Regards,
Ed
------ End of Forwarded Message
[ The interested reader would do well to read the archived correspondence between the Correas and Storms.
Storms exemplifies the general problem with so-called peers that are not peers: notice how, at times, he almost seems to get the gist of the new argument, only to immediately try to flatten and collapse it back to old arguments and his confused state of mind. ]
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Subject: Re: The Correas . . . (a response to your long e-mail of 30 May)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:52:20 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Chip Ransford
On 7/16/02 5:38 PM, "Chip Ransford" wrote:
> 16 July 02
Dear Gene,
Dear Chip,
> It took me, it seems, a day, on average, to read each page of your highly
appreciated missive. (I guess it looks like I should hit an Evelyn Woods
speed reading class.)
[ Note: He is referring to the appreciation and review of our work which Gene had posted on Vortex in the summer of 2002. ]
Yes, it is very rich with ideas from the Correas.
> Thanks for the thorough review of the the Correas'
work. It is sad to learn of your falling out with Jed.
He's always been boorish and destructive. I have lived with it. Yes, he
has his good points, but they are always swamped, it seems, by his shooting
from the hip and lack of diplomacy which has caused me endless troubles.
> Sad, but also, not
surprising. I personally found him opinionated with few redeeming
qualities (though he could put his often well-informed opinions onto
paper with considerable skill)
An apt description of Jed.
> - his attitude toward me was generally
rude and condescending from our first phone conversation, onward.
Yep, that's Jed.
> I thought perhaps there might have been some misunderstanding generated via
the narrow-band connection, but my friendly approach to him at a
conference received a cold shoulder. He really did not seem to want to
hear anything I might have to say, and though his attitude was hurtful,
he was your associate and so I let it go.
I am sorry you had to experience that, but that probably describes a typical
person's reaction to Jed.
> Besides, he's pretty small
potatoes compared to people such as Ed & Carol, Mike McKubre, Tom
Passell, Martin, George Miley and of course, yourself - all people who
seem to regard my ideas with some respect. Of course, I consider all
these highly accomplished people to be brilliant - so where'd that leave
Jed in my opinion? Stooopid. And now, VERY stooopid.
Yes, VERY stoopid and libelous.
> (If you two have
"kissed and made-up" in the last month and a fortnight, then I retract
the "VERY" - seems unlikely though.)
Nope! NO kissing going on. He's still part of IE for now, but the less I
have to do with him the better. There are still some stories he wrote in
the queue that will be published, but after that, the standard for
acceptance of anything from him goes way up. He does not even participate in
the day to day or year to year operations here. We workers really do the dog
work. He just sits there on Vortex and commentates. He can afford to, he is
independently wealthy. The rest of us are desperate and hanging always by a
thread. He has insulted everyone at this company at one time or another.
Fortunately he is in Atlanta and we are in NH, otherwise having him aboard
would not have lasted one week.
> I had read to page 35 or so of your e-mail on the day I received it, then
printed it out yesterday to finish digesting it. What halted me earlier
was in reading the Correas' description of Tesla coil operation (what
delayed me further is another matter, later...). I became overwhelmed
with an "ah-ha" moment which summed the new view of the strength of
materials imparted to me by F. J. Grimer's papers (that you sent),
We have decided to publish the one he submitted for us.
> combined with a first understanding of the electrical effects of theTesla
coil (which I never before thought was to be understood) into an internal
visualization of how John Hutchison's artifacts came into being. In my
life "on the fringe," those pieces of merged, distorted and over-strained
metal remained the most mysterious objects I'd ever seen (and handled).
(You may have met John at the Denver conference.)
I am confused by whether or what Hutchinson has. He is a mystery. He comes
off like a jerk (on the surface), but I will be open about his
accomplishments until I personally have a chance to make a hands-on
assessment. Others have been impressed.
>Now I think I have the beginnings of a halting comprehension of their formation.
In summary: From Grimer - Materials are held together by an external
compressive force, "tensile" forces do not exist, electron coulomb fields
prevent further collapse. Failure in tension occurs when compressive
field is overcome. Compressive force likely derives from ZPE, Casimir-like.
From Correas on Tesla coil - Proximal massbound field draws conduction
and valence charges from metallic objects, distal massfree field draws
only conduction band charges. Distal field modifies Aether field.
Combined, the lack of charge plus external cohesive pressure seems to
allow John Hutchison's startling results of butter knives sinking into
aluminum blocks and the like, but I think only if the Aether and ZPE are
one and the same, or at least, different views of the same universal
presence.
Hmm...
[snip]
> Best Wishes my good friend, keep up the good fight!
Very best wishes to you too -- and to Joyce,
Gene
> Chip
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Subject: Re: Your recent mail
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 00:27:51 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
>> Today I had my first conversation with C.E.'s Bert
Gordon money manager, who is asking the right questions. I'm confident it is
going to happen the way I wish.
> What is your ETA?
There is what I hope a minor tax regulation glitch discovered today, but I
think it will be overcome. The NEF corporation could be formed within the
next two weeks and IRS 501c3 status achieved within 2-3 months.
>>> Have you gathered the requisite board members yet?
>> Yes. Five excellent people have agreed: Me. Bill Zebuhr. Rick Broussard
(Editor of New Hampshire Magazine), Mark Aldrich, and Atty. Jim Kazan (a
Temple Beth Jacob friend who has been fascinated by my (and YOUR) work.
> This appears to be an excellent board. Is CE the only source of funds at present?
There are a handful of others who I think will contribute quickly, but ,
yes, CE is the biggest promised one. I will seek a big expansion in terms
of variety and numbers of donors, once it is up and running.
>>> On Rothwell & Co.
>>>> I had no time for that. It will be done some day. It is not a priority for
me to deal publicly with these jerks. I have other ways in which I
intend to destroy them all.
>>> Needless to say we are all quite curious as to your envisioned method to
effect this glorious deed...
>> By financial success for us all, followed by scientific, technological, and
publication success, which I am determined to achieve.
>>> WE had hoped to have finished our diatribe
with Rothwell & Co. by now, but it seems it might take a little while longer.
>> Good. I am eager to see it posted.
> The question we now have - since it is half-way finished - is one of timing or
opportunity. We'll see and give you our thoughts on this when it is complete.
OK.
>> I have not ruled out doing mine at some
point, it is just that now is not the right time. I will get in the right
spirit soon enough.
> We look forward to it.
I may need to get it out of my system. It might be therapeutic.
>>> Len Danczyk has also been back in touch with us - after having finally
broken down and purchased some of the monographs. He is pressing Uri
for another meeting - which clearly will not be feasible until Uri
returns - but we doubt there is much reason to hold our breath. We all
think (Uri included) that he is up to something, and that he has no
investors at all.
>> I have not heard this name before.
> We believe we mentioned him to you last year during the MAGG negotiations- as
a possible sponsor who contacted us with a list of investors from California.
Anyway, he is fairly irrelevant, as we was not able to come up with a single
confirmation of his investor list in the 4 months we gave him.
>>> Without this being any reflection on your recent meetings or on how
perfect a candidate for Aethera this Jonathan Bonanno may be - you may
imagine the endless succession of jokes his name has provoked over here.
>> I am sure :) But he has turned out to be a simply marvelous fellow. He
asks many, many right questions. He is definitely connected to great wealth
and has significant wealth himself. I am leading him the right directions
on a number of fronts, but he is just one person. There will be more...
> Do you think he got cold feet?
No, they are quite hot.
>>> Has he made any further moves?
>> Yes, we interested him in the excellent technology at Bill Zebuhr's company,
Ovation Products -- (let me attach my description of Bill's work).
> Is Zebuhr contributing to the Foundation at the same time? We will read what
you sent to us about him.
He may be in a position to do that in a year or so. His company is in transition to big time manufacturing.
>>> What does he do in Barcelona?
>> He is just there for half a year -- he founded a company there dealing with
financial billing matters. Mundane stuff. I'll dig up his web site for it
-- on a card that I think I left at work.
> We'll check this out before we leave.
>>> Your comments regarding Rothwell were well phrased and placed and to the
point. And it was most interesting to learn through your letter that
Jed has been providing Ed with some financial backing.
>> Only for some equipment for him to perform Les Case-type experiments in a
Seebeck calorimeter.
>>> This was news to
us, although only a few days prior to receiving your mail, Paulo had on
several occasions wondered out loud if Ed were not perhaps receiving
funds from Jed.
>> It is not continuing funding, but I believe it was for $20,000. Jed has
NEVER provided anything like that for me. I seem to recall a few thousand
dollars here and there in the early 1990s when I was desperate. Jed waits
for others to fund things. He is not generous with his money.
> This is where our lawyers are both saying we should ask you for help - to find
out both where Rothwell might have directly or indirectly dissuaded potential
investors (like CE) or angels, or scientists advising them (as it seems is
likely to have happened with Storms) from giving our technologies serious
consideration, and to determine whether Rothwell has assets that are worth
suing for.
I have no concern for this non-friend/enemy at this time. You should do
whatever you think is justified and doable. Certainly he has egregiously
maligned your work (and mine) in a reckless manner and he has confirmed on
Vortex that he has done this out of malice toward you both.
Since leaving his former company -- at least as a full-time employee --
Rothwell has not had to work, so that gives you some idea of his worth. He
has a house -- now two houses -- and a family to support. I suppose it may
be in the $1-2 million range. Maybe it is more. I have no idea. It may also
be that his former company, Microtel, has an agreement with him to continue
to pay him a significant salary -- perhaps just to get him out of their hair.
> We have hesitated in putting this to you because of our friendship,
arrangements and common goals - as we do not want to place you in a more
difficult position than the one you're in.
I am in a difficult enough position as is. Helping friends such as you
make a critical decision is justifiable. In general, I think litigation is
highly draining and perhaps ultimately not productive toward your ends. We
spent $30,000 and several years just defending our company against Santilli
-- and we won. Joanne and I fought our medical malpractice battle and won
some money and a moral victory (11 years of work!), but it took a lot out of
us. I think Rothwell and his potential allies have deep pockets and other
resources for legal defense. Also, it might be that he would retaliate
against ME (a "counter suit"?) if you were to take action, but I do not
particularly fear that. CE would be outraged if Rothwell did that. Jed is
a boor and a creep. I have done nothing wrong. He, by contrast has been
obstructing and maligning publicly the work of Infinite Energy and our lab,
both under my direction.
I think Jed has done NOTHING to influence C.E., who does not value his
opinion in general. As for Ed Storms, I think the influence has gone the
other way. I think Storms helped incite Jed against you with his poor
remarks about the understandability of your work. It would be very, very
difficult -- impossible I think -- to prove that Jed has incited either CE
or Storms against you. The case would have to be made in more general terms
of generic damage via the internet. Thus, my amateur view is that it is not
a strong case, morally offensive as Rothwell is. The liability is there,
the provable damages may not be.
My hope is that we can jointly work on aetherometry in a a successful
manner, scientifically, commercially and in publishing writing. THAT would
represent the ultimate victory over Rothwell. Jed does not easily eat his
words, but we can cook up a nice recipe to force him to do it. Tempting as
legal action may be, it may not be the right course, but it is your
decision.
>>> If Ed had been the least bit honest with us, he should have
stated clearly and openly that this relation between himself and
Rothwell existed instead of coyly dancing around the issue when it was
raised.
Yes.
>In any case, we loved your letter. It was quite perfect.
>>> Naturally, we would like to know if/how he might choose to answer it.
>> I will later look over his full reply and forward it to you if it makes
sense and is not too obnoxious.
> Maybe you should let us see just how obnoxious it got. We think we got it in
your later e-mail.
You did.
[snip]
> Alex & Paulo
All best,
Gene
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Subject: Re: Infernal rumblings
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:58:50 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Before my meeting with Selman this morning, answering some loose ends in
your past messages. If I miss anything, let me know:
> Dear Gene -
> We know you now have your peace of mind policy of not getting e-mails over the
week-ends, and to top it all - it is Roshashana - but here it goes.
...
Yes, if it were up to us we would stay doing exactly what we were doing. But
obviously no one with the means thinks that it is important enough to provide
us with a means to continue.
Not yet...
...
> We take from this that CE is really single-minded...Yet, he should know that
solutions to problems in one field often come from cross-fertilization with
other fields. Science does not exist in a vacuum even if specialization leads one to believe it does.
He does not have this global perspective on science. It is too much to
expect in such a potential benefactor. I have tried to tutor him to think
more globally, but he is focused completely, it seems, on CF.
>>> We also have a [nuclear] reactor or cell plus circuit design that should be
considered (in the right context) and tested. At the same time, this is
the last thing we want to do - not to mention any consideration of
further patents. Maybe we should bury all this matter.
>> At least temporarily -- because you are occupied with the need to move, no?
> We don't know if it will be temporary, Gene, that is the true state of
affairs. We need funds to proceed. We need a sponsor or sponsors. Science and
continued development do not thrive on thin air, as you well know. It is virtually
impossible to think that with three distinct technologies of considerable
importance and having patent protection, we have not found a single REAL
investor. Or even a donor. A move is an irretrievable process whereby we
will likely lose most of the lab space we now have. We will continue some of the
lines - or try to, but most will be lost, and that is what we are in the process of negotiating with ourselves: where to draw the line between the lines that
remain and those that must go.
I know that this is what is going on with you now.
> Our desperation has at times pushed us to even
contemplate having you proceed in secret with a CF reactor design and testing
per our protocol - but there is all that know-how you'd need, not to mention the
working/materials expenses (and what could you find for us in return?).
It is you intellectual property, but if it seemed to me something that might
well be doable, I would go to many lengths to try it. New CF concepts,
however, are notoriously chancy. However, if there is hard theoretical
backing for an idea, maybe it is worth trying here in NH -- taking full
experimental burden away from you. I'd be your remote technician!
> Or publish our entire insight into CF. But we need to get something from all this -
something that could permit us to continue at least on a minimum program of
research.
IF your reactor design showed life fairly quickly, I do not think it would
be difficult to get CE, through the imminent NEF fund, to fund you on that.
(The key would be what experimental/theoretical proof of likelihood of
success we could provide.) He would expect the basic results to be made
public, perhaps a demonstration brought to ICCF10, etc. Obviously he would
respect your right to your own patent protection -- not sure he would want
to "invest" in it, just would want it brought out publicly to the world. I
believe he would support YOU, through NEF, on this basis.
> Yet, nowhere in our, yours and Uri's searches through high and low
has anything like this even came close to materializing. It is so disconcerting that
it makes one feel like abandoning the entire matter altogether. Only others
make small profits at the cost of riding the coat-tails of one's own generosity in divulging too much, too fast and too soon.
Of course, we burn, also at times, to tell you and Uri about the extraordinary
discoveries we made on this CF matter. What else can we say? - it is all
wrong, this complete lack of material support we have drawn.
I would very, very much like to help this initiative. I think it is your
best shot, in the clearest way, to achieve success via the channels that
have opened via the hunger of the CF field for new directions and new
understandings.
[snip]
If you do nothing else, please let us proceed through a shoe-string Aethera
to begin selling a DVD or videotape with the literature package! I will do
this with Uri. I understand he is in Israel right now, as you said. I had
left a message a few days a on his cell phone -- not yet returned.
> We have just received a letter from Harold and he is actually quite enthusiastic
about your idea of filming, by himself, an introduction to our video, and he
pledges he will try to do just that when he returns from his cruise, in October.
I'll match him via my own video effort if he does that. Nothing fancy needed!
> He will send us both a PAL and a NTSC version, and we will think about a
strategy to make copies with minimum loss of resolution.
NTSC is fine for such presentations!
> Further printed matter could be
included with the package as well if we choose. But we should all come to an
agreement - we, Uri and you - on how to proceed.
Well, I have tried to get this going. I am all for it.
> Both you and Uri should realize
that since September of 2001, we have not made one red cent of income (discounting
sales from Akronos, but this is hardly enough to allow anyone to survive). All of us
are working every day and evening flat out and yet everything we have fought
so much for may yet go down the drain.
As long as you continue to publish and maintain your intellectual presence
in the marketplace of ideas -- tapes, website, publishing, etc. -- your
efforts will not have been in vain. When you started publishing Aetherometry
you told me you thought it would be a decade before any great changes were
felt. Yes, it might take that long --- but much shorter with Aethera ramping
up from a shoe string to something bigger.
>Gene - you have witnessed much at our laboratory and seen how we work
and think. It is like two different worlds or dimensions - what Reichians and
Relativists & still others do, and what we do, and those who are seriously
interested in these matters do: they study and work and burn the midnight oil
to obtain new answers that explain both the old and the new.
>>> This is a wild turn, Gene. You will be even more disliked.
>> Ha! Indeed. Perhaps that is my goal :)
> You should be careful about such wishes - witch hunts are not pleasant
affairs. Still, we couldn't quite claim not to have a certain affinity with this
impulse - expecially in light of the dismal nature of the reading, 'thinking' 'public'.
>>> Incidentally, how is the 'divorce' coming along and the new
institutional structure for the NEF being developed?
>> Still waiting for one more bureaucratic-approved signature. Kazan's law firm
must review Boards onto which he sits for possible "conflict of interest" and
suit potential.
> But will he be out for sure from these Boards - or the Boards altered, etc?
Rothwell will remain on the CFTI board -- there is no getting him out of
that (unless a direct financial buyout were offered -- a possibility!), but
CFTI will remain a shell unless a last minute miracle in Ken's experiments
rescues some economic value -- there is a 3- 6 week crash project going on
by Ken right now which is "make or break."
Rothwell will have ZERO, nada, nothing to do with NEF or with Aethera,
obviously!
>>> We would all feel much better when you have crossed that bridge.
>> Rothwell is happily doing LENR.org now -- it is diverting his bile. There
will be no problem in sliding IE into the New Energy Foundation, sans
Rothwell.
> Let us know when you think your coast is finally clear enough that we can
proceed with our public defense of Rothwell's attack. We would like to leave that
ready before leaving for Panama, if possible.
I'll let you know about timing.
> We have now just about finished preparing two new monographs, one on
atmospheric electricity, ambipolar radiation and latent heat, and the other - the
first of our biological field energy papers. There is also a third interview, and a
post-scriptum on the PP5 matter.
[ "PP5" is the 5th issue of DeMeo's Pulse of the Planet publication, largely prompted by the emergence of Aetherometry and our re-discovery of Tesla's and Reich's Aether Motor, which was demonstrated under NDA to DeMeo himself. We published a systematic criticism of the neo-Reichianism promoted by DeMeo:
In response to his underhanded and unexpected attack, we wrote To be done with (An)Orgonomists: conversations with (hopefully) the last one - a complete response to J. DeMeo's attack on Aetherometry" (2001).
This was followed by another round - our "Response to J.Demeo's Open Letter of 20 Dec, 2001".
Finally, we wrote a comprehensive and critical evaluation of the DeMeo brand of neo-Reichianism, "Pulse of the Planet Taken to Task" (2002).
The disservice that DeMeo and his collaborators paid to the work of Reich is extensive. They distorted every concept and every function that Reich enunciated in the shallowest possible of ways. It was a way to understand nothing. ]
>Would you like to read this material before we put it up, as we have done in the past -
or are you too loaded? Let us know so that Malgosia can forward you the preview URL.
Again, I will have some time if/when these are opened.
More later...
- Gene
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Subject: Re: Various - 9/26/02
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 07:50:05 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Paulo Correa
> Dear Gene -
We've all been busy with these last releases, and only now find time to
respond to your various queries.
Got up this morning (in Norwich, CT) early to read your MAGNIFICENT AS2-28!!
Studying it carefully. Overwhelmed by what I have read so far. It might be
a delicious goody for a future cover story in Infinite Energy! How about it?
We shall see.
A very productive -- but also obnoxious meeting -- at Norwich City Council
chambers last night (2.5 hours), as State of CT bureaucrats "explained"
their preposterous $6 million project that will affect so many lives. I
gained support and sympathy within the audience for my position -- due to my
public comments and circulated report (see attached). Old friends who knew
my parents were there. This proposed public works project is EXACTLY like
the hot fusion nonsense that has crushed the study of cold fusion! And,
these pigs are simply "waiting around" for $$millions from Uncle Sam (i.e.
us) to fall from the sky so that they can justify their planet-paving
projects! Meanwhile, aggrieved residents have their lives and economic
life-blood on hold -- perhaps till 2008 when this monstrosity is scheduled
to be completed!!! The head engineer actually stated that their method of
operation is to generate lots of projects so that if a "spare" $million in
Federal funding comes along in a particular budget year, they have a project
ready to capture it!!!! Official science, as you know, works this way too.
The long and short of it is that today I will be in Norwich having
discussions with real estate agents, possibly some law firms, house movers,
etc. -- as well as doing some work on the Norwich house to button it up for
the coming cold weather.
> Preferably Selman would visit us after his
conference, ie from the 15th of November onward.
OK -- will report that to him.
>(Besides getting acquainted,
does Selman have other overt purposes or tasks we should prepare for?)
I suppose a look at something like the aether field meter, if it is still
up, would be useful. I think he will be up for concrete discussions of
financial arrangements that may be acceptable to you. I think the following
might be the easiest path -- I discussed this with Uri:
YOU get $200,000/year for several years to be consultants to the PAGD
project of interest to Selman et al. -- but in clear statement would allow
you to do whatever ABRI research you wanted (while also providing
long-distance guidance to the PAGD project). Selman et al put in several
$millions to initiate the PAGD project, which would have some concrete
milestones, which when reached, would trigger much more money into it. With
guarantees, of course, that PAGD could never be tied up by any funny business.
[snip]
>> As you know, the final signature was obtained for New Energy Foundation
(NEF) and the attorney has either filed it in Concord or will do so in the
next day or so -- I told him ASAP! The accountant and I applied over the
phone for our IRS "Employer Identification Number" (EIN), and we received
it, so that I can and will shortly open NEF checking account and money
market account. Thus, the place for CE to deposit for the magazine will be open.
> Excellent.
>> The accountant and I will shortly apply to the IRS for
tax-deductibility status (501c3) -- CE can retroactively deduct his NEF
contributions based on the new status.
We have NEF bylaws drafted, these will be approved by a Board meeting and I
will be de-facto in charge of day-to-day operations, probably as President
of NEF and Treasurer.
> When is the first meeting?
Unclear and date not important. It can be done over the phone.
>> More good news. Rothwell just called and we had a pleasant chat, with no
references to recent hostilities, I took the opportunity to tell him about
NEF and CE's insistance that this is how it needs to be done. He "yessed"
me all the way - he voiced no objections, so this is in fact my legal green
light to go ahead and transfer the magazine to NEF. (I will send him an
e-mail too, confirming what I am doing and that he approves, so that it is
even more strictly legal.) I told him that there would possibly be grant
money available for various researchers so that if cold fusion research
arose that NEF's board approved -- or for which some benefactor had
designated his/her funds -- this would become the tax-free vehicle for that.
So, let me formally tie off all the loose ends now -- CE actually putting
money into NEF for the magazine will be the conclusive point. That should
happen with the next 2-3 weeks. Then the coast is clear for the publication
on your part of your challenges to Rothwellian/Kooistrarian slanders.
[ Akronos then proceeded with the publication of our "The Serpent's tooth and its egg (or, how are the stupid so often malicious)".
Following another confrontation between Gene and Rothwell on Vortex, the above feature came to include a September 2003 Addendum. ]
> Let us know when CE does just that. The response has been drafted and is
half-way edited, but probably will still undergo many modifications -
including those you will suggest, of course.
Good.
> Even though you told P. that CE was
indignant at Rothwell when you brought to CE's attention what had gone on in
Vortex, are you afraid that CE might not make his contribution or forthcoming
ones if there is a response on our part to Rothwell & Co?
No! I am more concerned that Rothwell would rock the boat and become
obstructionist before the legal process for NEF was fixed.
>> In addition to the investment route we are pursuing with Selman and others,
I will of course make targeted efforts to get others to grant charitably to
you via NEF. That would be a fast way forward for some sustainment money.
> !!!
>>>> Then, I got completely distracted by your 40-page new treatise,
"Becoming..Vicarious Future." Read it all this afternoon and appreciated it
much, although cannot agree with all its particulars.
>>> We would like to hear more about this - and about your point(s) of
disagreement. We can still change the text and it is in that mindset
that we immensely appreciate your reading and feedback.
>> I'm buried for some days, so do not expect it that quickly --but I will try
to give more feedback soon enough.
> Whenever you can - we understand how buried you are, and the advantage of web
materials is that they can be modified if necessary. Malgosia sent you two new
URLs for AS2-28 and our report on the Berlin Conference - whatever you can
give us in feedback will be greatly appreciated.
The Berlin report is outstanding too. I do not see anything to change in it.
This might be something good for IE too, but for that I would propose not
elevating the Rothwell/Smith business. Their BS does not deserve note --
though I understand your attitude and it is good that you will have it on
your web site, but let us discuss this issue later. I appreciated your good
words about Hal Fox.
>>>> AND -- I LOVED the translation of Oriana Fallaci's
"On Anti-Semitism." Excellent! I can hardly wait till you post it. I will
then be circulating reference to it (perhaps I can send just the text
directly too, with reference to aetherometry.com? OK?) to many Jewish
friends -- that can only be to your and Aetherometry's advantage.
>>> But of course. We're pleased that you enjoyed it. We also thought it
was outstanding. We have not always found ourselves in agreement with
Fallaci - much to the contrary. But this piece is indeed excellent.
>> I sent you the fax yesterday on some new publication of hers. I think you
would enjoy Commentary magazine in general if you have the chance to get
it.
> Very much so - thank you! We have all had a turn at it - and it has led to
some other rather interesting lines of inquiry and discussions. We will be
watching for the French courts ruling in October.
[snip]
>>> We think we will most likely be here at this time. It may indeed be a
good moment to meet with him to see how coincident our paths may be.
But, in the meantime, what is happening to your PP presentation - is
that going ahead and getting to the target investor?
>> Not done yet, but will do. Selman would wish to meet either on Nov. 12 or
Nov.15. -- days before and after his conference.
> What is the idea of this PP presentation? Is it just for the targeted investor?
And for Selman. I will do it and pass it by you.
>>>> THEN.. I moved onto the topic of Aetheromety -- vectored him to your
site and my letters of support. I spoke about the "free energy charger" and
the "infinite wheel" -- this met with considerable enthusiasm. [snip]
I also discussed the geomagnetic wheel ("infinite wheel"), which really
turned his marketing juices on. In any event, I will study what he sends me and
see what possibilities there may be.
>>> Alright. Send us whatever comes in and we can think about it. As you
know, in our experience, venture capital schemes have not been at all
productive - but let's see what arrives.
>> Got the materials -- not suitable, I think, for what we have now in Aethera.
> OK.
>> I am still waiting for a blurb from Uri on which to iterate.
> Did you talk to him about this last Tuesday?
I talked to him last week. No written memo yet from him...he must be very
busy.
[snip]
> There's also
that meeting at the Norwich Council Chambers tomorrow night, isn't there? Let
us know what happens. Hope all this goes well, we'll be thinking of you -
> Alex & Paulo
[snip]
PS2 - Did you include your editorial "A matter of gravity" in the current
issue?
Yes, it is there -- you will have it or have it already. Sent out last week.
> We're sorry that we lost track of it, as we intended to make some comments to you.
We are all so busy -- understand.
Off to do my Norwich work today.
All good wishes -- Gene
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Subject: Re: Mills' business strategy
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:57:39 -0800
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
On 11/11/02 12:05 PM, "Jed Rothwell"
wrote:
> Oh, don't be an ass, Gene. What is the point of doing that?
It's done -- as of Nov. 29th. Midnight. There will no longer be danger of
having infinite-energy.com associated with your outbursts posing as
historical analysis. E.G. "I don't believe in either Tesla or Reich." --
and on and on....
> It will annoy
everyone and serve no purpose. People will have difficulty reaching me by
e-mail for a few weeks.
I gave you two weeks. Contact your list and let them know of the change.
> No other consequences will follow, and it will prove nothing. Simmer down.
I'm as cool as a cucumber already. I've been trying to get this taken care
of for a long time. You just gave me the final straw.
>> Since I associate editorially and otherwise with people like Mills, the
Correas, Bearden, Shoulders, the late James Reding, and others whom Jed
has attacked, and since Jed does not want to be associated with these
people, this change of e-mail nomenclature should be pleasing to all
concerned.
> No, it would be a big mistake. These people all hate one other too,
You do not know the facts and are blowing smoke, as usual. You prove my
point over and over. I have been privy to correspondence of just the past
week between some of the parties. They are quite complimentary and
respectful of each other. Use your own e-mail nomenclature for such
shoot-from-the-hip performances.
Stick to what you claim to know -- e.g. Rommel vs. Gates -- not the opinion
of various people about each other when you are not privy to their conversations
> and they say much worse things about one-another than I do. In fact, in the
whole batch of authors who have published in I.E., I am the practically the
only one with a sense of humor who knows enough history to distinguish
Rommel from Mengele.
Unfortunately you forget that some people or most people -- such as myself
-- see their primary commonality. They were both vicious Nazis. There is NO
humor in associating Rommel with Gates (or calling people insane or possible
frauds when you know almost nothing of their work). The gradation of their
responsibility for being Nazis and what their particular roles were is of no
concern in the context of your discussion. Furthermore, you did not qualify
any such distinctions when you made the comparisons.
>Such distinctions are essential to our understanding
of history, and our successful use of knowledge. Lumping your enemies
together without distinction serves no purpose. When Mallove gets the
mistaken notion that I am against him, just because I criticize people like
Mills, he he lumps people together and makes enemies unnecessarily.
You don't merely criticize them. You character assassinate them. You are
like a bull in a china shop when it comes to science. The important matters
concerning what Mills, Reich, Tesla, the Correas, and others have (or may
have) discovered and theorized with great difficulty means nothing to you --
if it can't satisfy your criteria for being sold on the street as a widget
as soon as you can get your hands on it -- whether in the primary market or
in the after market.
> He -- and Mills -- should listen to what I have to say instead. It would be good
medicine for them.
They are far ahead of you. With the kind of language and arguments you have
continued to use, it is no wonder that they are not interested in listening
to you. Jed Rothwell edited is fine. Jed Rothwell unedited is often -- too
often -- terrible.
> - Jed
- Gene
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Subject: Re: Status of Infinite Energy magaxine
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:42:16 -0800
From: Eugene F. Mallove
To: Vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Akira,
Since you have been a good friend of Infinite Energy, let me answer some of
your questions.
On 11/25/02 6:12 PM, "Akira Kawasaki" wrote:
> Nov. 25, 2002
Vortex,
The recent issue of Infinite Energy magazine, Volume 8. issue 48 2002,
contains a notice that henceforth a non-profit, tax deductible
charitable organization called the New Energy Foundation, Inc. (NEF) has
been formed and the publication of the magazine is now being published by it.
That is correct. The main reason is that since Infinite Energy has always
required either gifts or loans to bridge the gap between expenses and
revenue -- despite an increasing number of issues now on newsstands, it is
advantageous to benefactors to donate to a 501c3 organization. It's as simple
as that. The New Hampshire corporation, Cold Fusion Technology, Inc. still
exists and has partial ownership in certain intellectual property rights
(patent applications, demonstration devices, etc.) -- mostly due to the
exemplary work of NERL's Ken Rauen. This work is confidential for now, but
it is in the realm of thermodynamics, as you may have guessed. Publications
are being contemplated, pending the resolution of patent issues.
> The tax deductible portion is to be decided by the IRS soon and announced.
NEF is a New Hampshire non-profit corporation.
>The directorship of the NEF is made up of four New Hampshireans.
Five, including myself.
>Who makes up the directorship are not identified by names
Other changes noted in the magazine are the names of Jed Rothwell and
Susan Seddon as contributing editors.
These have always been contributors, not editors. So that is how it is
reflected in the masthead. Jed is welcome to contribute articles to
Infinite Energy -- he has one in the present issue. We have offered
material from IE to his web site lenr-canr.com, which is doing an important
archival task for LENR-type new energy. But Infinite Energy's focus is much broader than the LENR field, as you know.
> They are no longer listed.
Also there is no explanation of the now missing mention or activities of
New Energy Research Laboratory (NERL). What happened to it and Ken Rauen?
This was discussed in the an earlier IE devices and processes update.
Perhaps you missed it. Until further notice -- or until some repeatable
cold fusion (new hydrogen physics, LENR, call it what you will..)
demonstration device or process appears, we are no longer in active pursuit
of such devices -- these have consumed far too much effort in our facility
already, without satisfactory outcome. We have continuing contact and
cooperation with Les Case, however. Our interest is now mainly in other new
energy devices and potential processes that work repeatably and predictably,
e.g. the Correa PAGD reactor.
> The recent Vortex crossfire between Gene and Jed over Correa may have
been staged in light of the changes occurring at the magazine.
There was nothing "staged." Jed and I have had severe differences of opinion
about his public utterances about Mills, Shoulders, Bearden, and the
Correas, among others. We don't see eye to eye on many matters of tone and
focus on frontier science -- except in our common interest in the need for
LENR to succeed against the odds arrayed against it.
> Why do I say this? The publication position states that "Infinite Energy does not
independently verify the content, citation, validity . or paternity of
anything published herein by ousted authors."
You mean by "outside" authors! This statement has been on our masthead for
quite some time at the recommendation of legal specialists.
>That being the case, why the hubbub?
What hubbub are you talking about?
> The magazine still has Eugene Mallove as Editor-in-Chief and now
president of NEF, inc. All communication numbers and address remains the
same.
Akira, I hope I have explained the transition to your satisfaction. We hope
to broaden the base of IE benefactors and go beyond covering the expenses of
the basic operations. New Energy Foundation, if it is successful, aims to
fund critically needed experiments throughout the new energy field,
including good work going on in LENR.
> One other item. "The Scientific Advisory Board " listing of eight
scientists world-wide has been listed from the beginning of the magazine
and still remains unchanged and un-updated. It has never been explained
what their function to the magazine is/has been.
They are called on from time to time to render opinions about a range of
matters. Indeed, as with many publications, they hold honorary positions on
the masthead for their well known scientific expertise.
> I wonder if, only by lending names, it only supposedly adds to the creditability of the
publication and nothing else.
No, they do render opinions from time to time.
> -AK-
Best wishes,
Dr. Eugene F. Mallove
Editor-in-Chief, Infinite Energy Magazine
President, New Energy Foundation, Inc.
P.O. Box 2816
Concord, NH 03302-2816
www.infinite-energy.com
**********
P.S. To anticipate any further comments concerning the above matter and an
ad on page five of the current IE issue (www.aethera.org): Yes, this is a
separate matter in which I am involved with Uri Soudak and the Correas and
others. It is separate from NEF, pays for its ad space in IE, and has
separate post office box and phone/fax number. Here is the announcement of
today from Akronos:
Akronos Publishing is pleased to announce the release, in DVD format, of
a joint ABRI/Aethera documentary production
"From Pulsed Plasma Power to the Aether Motor"
This DVD provides an overview of both the PAGD and the ORgone/Aether
Motor research efforts undertaken by Dr. Paulo Correa & Alexandra Correa
at Labofex (1987-2002) and at the Aurora Biophysics Research Institute
(ABRI) (1996-2002). It also includes a short review of the
HYBORAC/Stirling Motor technology (2001-2002).
Introduced by Dr. H. Aspden and Dr. E. Mallove - advisors to this
production - the video documents the essential aspects of two distinct
and benign technologies of power generation. Including original
documentary footage filmed between 1987 and 2001, the video is a basic
introduction to the auto-electronically pulsed plasma research at
Labofex - Experimental and Applied Plasma Physics, which led to the
identification of the autogenous PAGD regime and the invention of aPAGD
inverter applications as well as the XS NRG (TM) Converter System. The
second part of the video documents the basics of the ABRI effort to
reproduce Reich's discovery of the ORgone Motor as well as the improved
Aether Motor invented by the Correas. Filled with simple demonstrations
of massfree aether energy - in vacua, in the ground and atmosphere, and
in human beings - this video illustrates the existence of an energy realm
which, until now, has been both ignored and grossly misunderstood. Most
of this footage was first presented at the Second Berlin Conference on
Innovative Energy Technologies, on June 15th, 2002.
ISBN 1-894840-19-4, ~104 min. [snip]
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