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The Tilley Car: anatomy of a scam (with Evolved Technologies for extra flavor)
Subject: Re: Important Announcement
On 8/29/02 7:15 AM, "Jed Rothwell"
That would require an anomalous source of energy or a violation of the
conservation of energy.
I have spoken to Carl Tilley and his wife and they seem to be quite straightforward, but he may well be deluded. We shall see. He is sending me some more information which I will evaluate in the context of what happens (or does not happen) on Sept 7th in Nashville.
Tilley HAS filed for a US Patent -- filing was last February, they say. He said he has worked on this idea for 18 years, at an integrated cost of $500k. (His wife told me that Carl Tilley had been a US Navy SEAL; maybe someone should call Jesse Ventura to confirm this!)
Tilley does have a smaller working unit, about 1 ft^3 which he calls his "yellow box." It is powered by a 12 volt deep cycle rechargeable battery which does not lower in voltage, he says, even when run for a half-hour or so plugged into about a half-dozen major appliances -- color TV, various saws -- the usual stuff mentioned by similar inventors in the past.
The performance of his vehicle, as he describes it, seems to be at the high end of EV performance (forget the claim of battery self-charging for a moment). He intends to drive the vehicle at up to 90 mph ("maybe higher") for many hours. He will allow anyone who shows up in Nashville to use their own equipment to measure voltage of the 12, 12-volt battery pack -- before and after. If he really does go hundreds of miles (he said he was aiming for 500-700), and at the same time does it at 60-90 mph, that would be an extraordinary accomplishment -- even within the context of conventional (non-new physics) EV's. If the battery pack stays fully charged for any significant time during such a run, and IF all other hidden sources can be ruled out with high confidence (i.e. No sound or smell of a "hidden" fossil fuel engine), it is likely that his vehicle does operate on new principles. So, he could make quite a bit of hay with such a demo.
Cold fusion researcher Dennis Cravens once had plans to drive across the US in a CF powered VW (monitored round the clock by TV cameras from the media), IF he could devise one. He even went so far as to acquire an old VW bug for that purpose and it is still sitting at his place, I believe. That would have been an excellent, convincing demo of CF capability, but alas, no such CF engine has ever been built -- some day, maybe.
I suggested to Tilley the idea of allowing his small unit to be sold as a scientific demonstration device. This seemed like a novel concept to him. The good news is that he has not ruled that out :) On the other hand, for the near term, he does not want anyone looking into the innards of his "yellow box" or the innards of the car's motor. He says there has been considerable media interest in this run on Sept. 7th, so we shall see what happens. Also, he claims that a handful of automobile companies have visited him already and are showing interest. Such mega-companies, however, have not acted appropriately in the past when confronted with something radically new to evaluate, so IF Tilley really has something, I assume these car companies (if real) would do nothing at all.
Before all the BS gets slung, let me state that I neither believe nor disbelieve in this Tilley claim, but I very much hope it is real -- a very nice bit of news, pre-September 11, 2002! I am happy that he intends to demonstrate his claims via the car run in public view. This is a good first step.
I am even happier that he has batteries in the loop, since it fits in with the physics of excess energy that is present in special systems in which charged species of radically different mass are active (e.g. the Aspden electric force law and Correa PAGD work). The Tilley device(s) may, of course, be a delusion or a hoax, and have nothing to do with the excellent published work of these other researchers.
Since I cannot make it to the Sept 7th demo, if anyone plans to be at the event, I would appreciate knowing. Your report will be considered for publication in Infinite Energy.
Sincerely,
Dr. Eugene F. Mallove
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 00:40:48 -0400
Dear Gene -
I'll send you the results of my investigations - nest week, maybe.
We have now just about finished preparing two new monographs, one on atmospheric electricity, ambipolar radiation and latent heat, and the other - the first of our our biological field energy papers. There is also a third interview, and a post-scriptum on the PP5 matter. Would you like to read this material before we put it up, as we have done in the past - or are you too loaded? Let us know so that Malgosia can forward you the preview URL.
It is with a the darkest of humors that we remark that we will likely be releasing these publications simultaneously with the launching of the next major middle eastern war. Undoubtedly like you, we will be monitoring the Bush speech on the 12th, but given the insanity of the year just past and Cheney's declarations this week, it seems the die has been cast...
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Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:40:00 -0700
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Indeed, Rosh-Hashana, but great to hear your thoughts. Will reply at greater length alter this weekend. Yes, I have someone 100% reliable "on the ground" in Nashville to see the event -- he went on his own nickel -- engineer Jan Roos. Will give you full report.
I attach some photos sent to me by the insiders, who appear to be good folk, but we shall see. The "little motor" sticking into the box of "hidden magic" appears to power the entire building -- and independent eyewitness
vouched for that to me (however, it is easy to con such a thing, of course). A smaller version of this add-on to the vehicle and its motor is said to keep the batteries in a permanent state of charge.
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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 09:07:32 -0700
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Just the bare facts...
See Tennessee newspaper coverage, below -- this was prior to the actual run on Saturday, which was terminated after 18 miles (13 laps) due to a failure of the left rear wheel bearing on the DeLorean. Voltage on the 12 battery pack was read at 137 V after the 18 miles, recovered to 144 volts after 15 minutes. Can conclude nothing about this at this point other than it was a disappointing failure to come through with what they had promised. I have talked with spokesperson Doug Littlefield. They will recycle and try to perform another appropriate public demonstration.
It is hard to understand this episode in the context of fraud (no admission fee was charged to view the demo and $5k was spent renting the Speedway). It is equally hard to understand this as self-delusion by Tilley et al -- either the car has super-performance prior to the demo day 9/7, or it did not. Either the lab operates via the claimed power source or it does not.
More later, I hope...
Gene
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Carl Tilley of Lebanon has developed a device that an associate, Doug Littlefield, likens to "a rather elegant battery charger." Tilley's innovation allows the gull-winged '81 sports car to run on 12 car batteries without gasoline, Littlefield said. The promotional material, meanwhile, claims the car can drive "hundreds of miles without recharging" and can reach speeds of more than 100 miles per hour.
The electric DeLorean will debut at the Nashville Superspeedway, and auto racing great Bobby Allison will take it around the track. The event, which begins at 8 a.m., has intrigued some, including devotees of the Serbian-American electrical inventor Nikola Tesla, and drawn skepticism from others.
"Our goal is to prove the technologies and market them to entities large enough to market and sell them," Littlefield said in a telephone interview from his Vermont business. Telephone messages left yesterday for Tilley, whom Littlefield describes as a "self-taught doer," and with Bobby Allison Racing in Alabama weren't returned.
The Tilley vehicle event comes on the heels of the Ford Motor Co.'s decision last week to walk away from a $123 million investment in electric cars. A spokeswoman told The New York Times there wasn't enough demand for the vehicles, which are limited in size and in how far they can go between recharges.
Other major auto companies also are skeptical of the feasibility of an all-electric car that doesn't require recharging.
"I'm speechless," said Max Gates, a communications manager with DaimlerChrysler in the Detroit area.
"In general, we found the challenge of electric vehicles quite difficult."
If Tilley's invention succeeds, he will have surmounted a technical challenge that has stymied others who have labored to bring electric vehicles to the mainstream.
"Electric vehicles are still the only way to get zero emissions," said Dan Holt, technical editor with the Society of Automotive Engineers.
"The biggest constraint on a pure electric vehicle is the power source," Holt said, adding the problem is getting a battery with enough power at a reasonable cost.
Batteries, he said, "tend not to last very long and are expensive to replace." Companies are working on lithium ion batteries that are efficient but very expensive.
Car manufacturers have shied away from electric-only vehicles for the same reasons, plus another - a driving range that tops out at slightly more than 100 miles, said DaimlerChrysler spokesman Gates.
Bruce Meland, editor and publisher of Electrifying Times magazine, acknowledges that many doubt or are even hostile to Tilley's vehicle. He has interviewed Tilley, who has started a foundation for inventors and investors.
In a posting to the Electrifying Times Web site last week, Meland wrote that Tilley wouldn't go into details about his innovation although he said he admired Tesla's work. From that, Meland concluded that Tilley may have replicated a Tesla process and created an electromagnetic vacuum that draws heretofore untapped energy from the atmosphere.
Tesla technology has been suppressed, Meland said in a phone interview from his Oregon offices, but didn't give details. He said others' skepticism is to be expected as with any potential innovation.
"I don't think the oil or car companies understand what a significant breakthrough this is," Meland said.
If Tilley succeeds, it "completely changes our whole picture on energy, how to use this energy to free the planet from fossil fuel."
Kathy Carlson can be reached at 259-8047 or at kcarlson@tennessean.com .
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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 17:02:44 -0400
I didn't send my Tilley Electric Vehicle documentation out to my eMail list yet, Andrew. I wanted to see what would happen at the ultra-long-distance Saturday, Sept. 6th test run in Nashville, just in case anything negative happened.
It's a good thing I waited, because many of my list people would have deemed the test a hoax. The car burned a bearing after about 20 miles, and couldn't continue. I was afraid if I sent out the message, I would be the subject of ridicule for even considering the possibility that this vehicle could work as claimed.
Here's the URL reporting on the test:
As you can see, this message to you is being copied to others who are well aware of these "Free Energy"
engineering possibilities, supported by the physics of the Zero-Point Quantum Vacuum.
The Tilley web site is:
Take care.
Hal Ade
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 00:56:47 -0700
Dear Alex and Paulo,
My latest...
Gene
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"Free Energy" Car Suffers Mechanical Breakdown
The potential record-breaking event by an electric vehicle at the Nashville SuperSpeedway this Saturday morning (9/7/02) disappointed Tennessee inventor Carl Tilley, his associates, and about a hundred other people attending the admission-free gathering, when a wheel bearing failed. See www.tilleyfoundation.com for the company's promotional material and information.
The Tilley Foundation had rented the new SuperSpeedway for an expected all-day run to crush, with a margin of hundreds of miles, the world record for an EV of 220 miles. The group had rented the SuperSpeedway at a reported rental cost of about $5,000.
Tilley claims to have invented a device that re-charges batteries on-the-fly in automobiles and in fixed installations, using no evident fuel or power source (except whatever energy may be accessible from the space vacuum). Photos of this device that are circulating show what looks like a very small electric motor with its output shaft penetrating an approximately one cubic foot metal box. Independent observers who have been to Tilley's lab say that this is the device that Tilley claims is also powering his building.
Tilley's 1981 DeLorean, retrofit with a conventional electric motor and controller (purchased, we confirmed, from EV America of Wolfboro, New Hampshire), had to stop its planned multi-hundred mile demonstration after only about 18 miles of high speed driving (moving in the 70-90 mph range, estimated by observers). Its left rear wheel bearing failed, making the car inoperable for any more laps. An independent engineer from New York, who had driven to Nashville in HIS unconverted DeLorean, confirmed to the attendees that DeLorean vehicles are particularly prone to such bearing failures, his own vehicle had had several such bearing failures in the past.
Our colleague, engineer Jan Roos, who witnessed Saturday's demonstration relates that Tilley and his associates promise another public demonstration soon, which will involve TWO vehicles: the DeLorean with new bearing replacements on all wheels, and a retrofit SUV of some kind. By doing this they hope to insure a successful demonstration. They have privately promised also a public demonstration of an electric-powered single-engine piloted aircraft, to be flown from Florida to somewhere in New England! Prior to the mechanical failure Saturday, the airplane flight was to have occurred before the end of October. Douglas Littlefield of Vermont, Tilley's spokesman, told me that they have obtained FAA approval for such a test flight.
Jan Roos told me this evening that he inspected the vehicle as closely as possible, with the various compartments open, and there was no evidence of any kind of auxilliary batteries or another concealed engine. It is an electric vehicle, period. Two of the compact Tilley devices, with drive belts attached, appeared to be near the engine, Roos said. In the rush to start the early morning, all-day run on Saturday, Roos was not able to measure the initial 12, 12-Volt Wal-Mart battery pack voltage. However, the voltage reading immediately after the car stopped was 137 V, measured by Roos' DVM. The pack recovered to 144.8V within about 20 minutes after this.
Chemical recovery of storage battery potential is a known phenomenon, of course. Tilley understands this, but noted to Roos that his device continues some of its recharge functioning after vehicle motor shut down. It is not clear what the average voltage of the battery pack would be during high-speed travel -- assuming the recharging claims are valid. Tilley and his associates claimed to Roos and others that the DeLorean had been driven 202 miles on a drive to Kentucky in the few weeks preceding the 9/7 public test, which if true would be remarkable. (The world record for a capable EV was by a Geo-Metro that went 220 miles.) Despite these dramatic claims, at this time it is not possible to draw conclusions about any anomalous performance of the vehicle. This must await further public demonstrations. It is noteworthy, however, that despite the embarrassing
mechanical failure, there seemed to be no reluctance by the inventor and his business associates (many evidently from Vermont) to promise further demonstrations soon. This is a positive development.
Prior to the 9/7/02 test, I had called Bob Batson, who runs EV America in Wolfboro, NH. I asked him how far a 3,000 lb De Lorean equipped with 12, 12-Volt (130-A-hr) batteries would be expected to travel, at say 60 mph, before stopping due to battery exhaustion. He ran his calculation and said that at 60 mph the car would travel at maximum 52 miles, but the average stopping distance would be 37 miles. This should put past and future claims by Carl Tilley and his associates in proper perspective.
Roos said he learned that the Tilley Foundation's plan is to sell the rights to the technology as soon as possible. There have been many interested parties, it is said. One non-negotiable requirement, Roos learned, is that the purchasing entity must agree to put the technology into the marketplace within three years, or the rights revert back to the Tilley Foundation. Infinite Energy magazine will provide continuing coverage of efforts to validate or disprove, publicly and privately, the very large claims of Carl Tilley and his associates.
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Dr. Eugene F. Mallove
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 02:16:31 -0400
Dear Gene,
We received your 'Quick report' this morning. Our initial amusement - we had bet ourselves last night that the event would be canceled due to a problem not related to the power system - soon melted as we began to
ponder all the implications of this business, and the entire event began to take on far more sinister overtones.
Until today we had not seen any claims of the power source for the Tilley vehicle and so were struck by a number of innuendoes which would suggest that he is working in our field of research - such as -
"Tilley wouldn't go into details about his innovation although he said he admired Tesla's work. From that, Meland concluded that Tilley may have replicated a Tesla process and created an electromagnetic vacuum that draws heretofore untapped energy from the atmosphere."
"...works on principles not acknowledged by the currently prevailing models of physics. "
And it works on the same principle of tapping electric power from aether energy... Your comment was also curious - and reminded us of the common misunderstanding that Vortex readers at the time made of our conversion system patent, where they thought that we had solely employed open-voltage measurements. There is even a complete lack of understanding of how open-voltage behaves. You write: "Voltage on the 12 battery pack was read at 137 V after the 18 miles, recovered to 144 volts after 15 minutes." What this means is that this fellow has nothing, absolutely nothing - a total and complete fraud. Notice this, Gene: when one charges a battery, the open voltage rises, but as soon as one finishes charging it, it falls (slower and slower with time); in reverse, if you discharge a battery, the closed-circuit voltage falls and, after you cease discharging, the open-voltage rises (faster at first, and then slower and slower). Hence, let us say our man started with 12*12volt batteries, that were charged to the typical nominal maximum of 13V each: his open voltage at the start would have been 156 volts if the batteries were in series; then he discharged them until their loaded-voltage or closed-circuit voltage was 137V; when he stopped discharging them (and not charging them!), then the open-circuit voltage recovered to 144 V (15 minutes from our experience with such batteries is a reasonable time for such recovery), NOT to 156 volts and virtually immediately. Ergo, the battery lost power even by the simplest method - that of the open voltages: 156 vs 1444V. Did Roos not see this obvious fact right away?? (The same ridiculous open-voltage claim was made for the Jasker claim 'passed on' by Parker...) Instead he made an irrelevant comment (?):
To not even complete the warm up laps was absurd. What kind of individual plans this kind of mass event and doesn't thoroughly test the state of the equipment (the vehicle seems to be known for this tendency to fail...) nor have back up systems in place? - The article notes it is not a car designed for this type of demonstration - but rather to 'look sporty' (ie, for show). The answer to this not entirely rhetorical question may be quite sinister (see below...). What Tilley did do was again poison the air for any serious research effort in this field. ("Channel 5 from Nashville was on hand to document the event, but they were not sure they were going to mention this except perhaps briefly in their ten-o-clock news. 'We've cried 'wolf' too many times on this kind of thing.'")
Then another gratuitous comment, but indirectly damaging again to our work:
And again the same open-voltage gimmick, which a kid could achieve even with a nonrechargeable battery whose open-voltage would be measured with a very high-impedance voltmeter. This is unbelievable, Gene, the amount of misinformation and disinformation in our field!:
And how about "He calls it 'cold electricity.' "...
Right. Now here is what we would like to say to you next, Gene. By the time we were finished reading all these idiocies - not only were we pissed off, but we felt compelled to do a little more digging into this Tilley scam. Here is what we learned.
First of all - as you know Tilley's EV was primarily flogged by www.greaterthings.com. In our last mail, we mistakenly told you that they were an evangelistic Christian group. Not true. In fact, the site is run by one Sterling Allan of Utah:
Greater Things (GREATERTHINGS-DOM)
Also run by Sterling Allan are:
www.remnantsaints.com
Allan was born and raised a mormon. He was excommunicated from the Church of the Latter Day Saints for for 'apostasy' as a result of developing and promoting extreme political 'doctrines' 'in conflict with both Mormonism and Christianity'. He practices a radical 'Davidic Servant ministry' . They call themselves "Davidic Servants." ['remnant saints'] and oppose both the US government and the Mormon hierarchy. They are seeking other 'like-minded warriors wanting to become acquainted and help increase one another's understanding and faith in the Lord and his promise of a Messianic Kingdom on earth: the strange act, the great and marvelous work.' This, by the way includes extermination or conversion of all Jews - and a Mormon/Christian reoccupation of Jerusalem. His website is filled with all the usual paranoia of the racist, survivalist: jewish sinners, gentile saviors, government concentration camps for patriots, etc., etc.
Allan on 'Israel' - "By fore-ordination and blood-line the Lord has told us that Israel will be gathered from the four-corners of the earth -- from among the Gentile nations. For many of the Book of Mormon scriptures we use here, it is clear that the Lord calls the Americas and Europe Gentile nations."
[ 2025 note: The above-referenced website and quoted text are actually not Sterling Allan's but his father's, David Allan's. The website contains a number of texts by Sterling himself, and he is referred to as the site's "Production Editor". ]
Depressingly, Sterling (who seems to have a multitude of the same flavor of websites) also has a website recently launched for free energy technology -
Now, at first blush, TJ seems like a fairly harmless dull sort of bloke who's had a few drinking problems over the years
However, if one reads on, one discovers that TJ likes to spend most of his time working " on my Pastor's web pages and keeping the ministry on the cutting edge of the internet." Very well. And who is TJ's pastor?
TJ's pastor, it turns out is -
And now it gets really ugly. We don't know if you have ever heard of the Restoration Movement or the Church of the Identity - but if you haven't, as a Jew, you should. This is one of the most fanatical, rabid, racistic, violent brands of Christian Fundamentalists that America has ever spawned. It's about as vicious and twisted a crowd as you may ever have the misfortune to ever run up against. Like Sterling's mormon cult they too know that Israel is not those Jews who presently and wrongfully occupy it. Peters writes:
As for us - we are both angry and disgusted with the whole sordid affair.
Let us know your thoughts,
Alex & Paulo
PS - We have just realized as a result of this investigation that Tilley was been repeatedly on our site (at least through the entirety of last week). We will check his activity as soon as we have a chance; will let you know the results.
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Upon receiving our communication, Gene responded:
Subject: Re: Alert Re: Tilley!!
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Thank you VERY much for your research! My guard is up. I want to get to the bottom of this matter and smoke Tilley out, if he is indeed a fraud. But caution, my friends, we are in the uncharted territory among possible delusion, fraud, and reality. By playing it completely neutral -- except for the tone of "we hope it's real" -- I'll be able best to do that.
The avg. range would be 37 miles at only 60mph (according to Batson). If they were going 70+, the fraction of the achieved average range expected would be higher.
If the batteries lost power, how could there be anything hidden?:
To not even complete the warm up laps was absurd. What kind of
individual plans this kind of mass event and doesn't thoroughly test the
state of the equipment (the vehicle seems to be known for this tendency
to fail...) nor have back up systems in place?
Then another gratuitous comment, but indirectly damaging again to our
work: "Tim Ventura, who has reproduced a lifter technology, commented
that this "free energy" technology in general seems to be camera shy. As
strange as that sounds, another inventor who claims to have a device
that draws energy from the aether, said that his machine that has been
operational for six years will stop working at times when certain people
come near."
Doesn't this guy know that this is baloney?
"The TEV is an obvious fraud. The only folks that DeLorean will be
taking for a ride, is Mr. Tilley's investors. The batteries will last
just long enough to take them to the bank."
"While the car was in the pit prior to its final run, a volt meter was
put on the batteries. The spectators watched in amazement as
they saw the voltage go up even as the car was just sitting there. 'It
is as if is recharging from the sky or something,' reported
Rumminger."
We doubt this comment was casual - but rather quite calculated. Any
idiot knows that as the batteries relax, the voltage will increase - this
is simply to dazzle the stupid.
And how about "He calls it "cold electricity."...
"'Despite this setback, one of the highlights of the event was the
networking of people that took place,' said Rumminger, who
spent seven hours talking with Roos after they left the stadium."
Yes, networking - sometimes also known as 'working the suckers'.
"Atkins spoke of several other technologies that the Tilley Foundation
has developed or that they plan to develop, such as the
business power unit that provided ample electricity to the
1800-square-foot shop where the car was converted. He also
anticipates a smaller version that could power a laptop computer or a
cell phone. 'Maybe even a watch,' he added."
Please...And the whole contraption in a box that vaguely reminds one of
the ORAC...
Ah! The man is an altruist. How appealing...
First of all - as you know Tilley's EV was primarily flogged by
www.greaterthings.com. In our last mail, we mistakenly told you that
they were an evangelistic Christian group. Not true. In fact, the site
is run by one Sterling Allan of Utah
Allan was born and raised a mormon. He was excommunicated from the
Church of the Latter Day Saints for 'apostasy' as a result of
developing and promoting extreme political 'doctrines' 'in conflict
with both Mormonism and Christianity'. He practices a radical 'Davidic
Servant ministry' . (...) This, by the way includes
extermination or conversion of all Jews - and a Mormon/Christian
reoccupation of Jerusalem. His website is filled with all the usual
paranoia of the racist, survivalist: jewish sinners, gentile saviors,
government concentration camps for patriots, etc., etc.
And now it gets really ugly. We don't know if you have ever heard of
the Restoration Movement or the Church of the Identity - but if you
haven't, as a Jew, you should.
"You have to give credit to this group for showing their magic motor
vehicle to the public and doing credible tests with realistic measurement
techniques. (At least, they claim they have done such tests, and they
describe them in a plausible, capable manner.)"
As for us - we are both angry and disgusted with the whole sordid
affair.
Warm wishes,
Gene
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:50:49 -0400
(...) The Tilley organization expects to get back to their publicly-demonstrated several-hundred-mile run without stopping to re-fuel the car, or re-charge its batteries, after the wheel-bearing is replaced, and the car upgraded for long-term very-high-speed running.
Hal Ade
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:23:10 -0400
Thanks, Andrew.
I'm waiting for Tilley's next test, which should be about Oct. 15th on the highway, at highway speeds.
Right now, I believe Tilley's car works as claimed, but am reserving my final opinion until all the evidence is in. From what has been reported at the "GreatThings" web-site, run by Sterling Allan, Tilley's system is apparently electrostatic, rather than magnetic, in which case it could be a close relative of early Tesla devices, or the current Testatika machine in the Meternitha community in Switzerland.
From what I've learned on the Web, over-unity magnetic generators depend on top-of-the line permanent magnets, so we're down to *materials* problems, as with "cold fusion". From my amateur knowledge, electro-static systems are easier and cheaper to build as crude devices, but there is that leakage problem to contend with.
Cheers,
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Andrew Michrowski wrote:
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In case you've not been keeping up....on Sept. 7th, a fellow named Carl Tilley and his group (...) claimed to have a modified DeLorean with an electric motor and a
self-charging battery system which would allow the car to run for very
long distances without needed to be recharged. As you know, the big car companies are dropping
electric cars primarily because of the limited range (100-150 or so) between charges, so this
would be like a Kitty Hawk demonstration if it worked. Unfortunately, a mechanical failure
occurred which resulted in the demonstration being cancelled.
However, Mr. Tilley and his associates kindly invited a small group of us to his workshop
and allowed us to take photographs,video and to interview them with any questions we might have.
This resulted in a flurry of posts on the internet and at the discussion list below, but to
date, we simply don't KNOW what the secret is.
Jerry W. Decker
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:56:42 -0400
Dear Gene,
We have, as you probably know, been receiving the dispatches from Hal Ade regarding the Tilley vehicle (we see you are also on his mailing list). We are thinking of sending this message to him - as well as to his list. What do you think?
Alex & Paulo
Followed a copy of the message we sent to Hal Ade on Oct. 3rd (see below).
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Subject: Re: Letter to Hal Ade?
Dear Alex and Paulo,
It is OK, for the most part. It is a good letter. You should feel free to send it. I do not object. However, you may have shot a bit wild on the Tilley stuff, potentially endangering yourself. The header:
I know it will be tough to dissuade you, but I would simply truncate all the stuff about Allan. Then you have made a good argument in your letter that can stand on its own.
IE #45 has a one page, completely neutral report about the event and remark that the test ended with the wheel bearing breakage --- and NO citation of the Allan sites, thank to your warnings. I am just reporting the often evanescent news in this field. Some -- most-- of our readers will understand the difference between your work and Storms' work vs. the Tilleys of this world, others will not. That's inevitable. I perhaps have failed not to have given more insight and criticism of the various "free energy" failures of the past and continuing. But -- I do not wish to be embroiled legally with such as Dennis Lee et al. Santilli was bad enough --a $30k price tag. (...)
Also, I read your latest on PP5 -- good stuff.
Best, Gene
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:37:29 -0400
Dear Hal -
We have received your recent stream of messages about the Tilley car. Originally we thought you were going in the right direction - in surmising a hoax was afoot. But you soon retreated, and so did others, when you simply failed to realize that if, as claimed, Tilley began his run with a charged 12*12V pack (operationally, charged means an open circuit voltage of ca 12*13V= 156V), then his open circuit voltage of 137V after a few tens of miles shows that the batteries did not charge, but rather discharged in keeping with the distance traveled by the car (or through which the load was displaced).
To not even complete the warm-up laps was absurd. What kind of individual or group plans this kind of mass event and doesn't thoroughly test the state of the equipment (the vehicle seems to be known for this tendency to fail...) nor have back-up systems in place?
All joking aside, however, one can see what claptrap sensationalism ultimately does: it undermines the effort of serious researchers. It raises the noise level and drowns the good scientific investigation with the bad - not to mention the disingenuous. It makes a caricature of scientific work and discovery - always presenting inventions as finished products offered on a platter for humanity's salvation and sprung into existence by sheer inventor dedication and suffering. No other politics of invention or discovery are deemed possible or acceptable.
This is perhaps one of the major reasons why we never acquiesced to giving demonstrations to those who posed as representatives of this or that medium and asked for an invitation. We never asked people to believe or disbelieve in any of our claims. We have asked them to carefully study what we have published, and those who deserved - in one way or another, out of business interest, scientific interest or friendship - to find out whether something worked or not, were always given a chance to observe it for themselves. We do not recall having ever given a demonstration - in physics or biology - that did not work. And we - together with our partners - have always avoided sensationalism. Maybe that is the reason why we have been the object of both a silence campaign that occasionally slips into distortions (one "Alexander" supposedly delivered Dr. Correa's 1996 Denver Lecture, our plasma power 'may be used for nuclear waste remediation', the development status is low or nil, etc), and a series of strident, libelous, slanderous attacks for the past six years. Curious how the people who attack us so vociferously or ignore us so completely are the same ones that never cease suspending disbelief when it comes to the grossest of errors, which they pass around with total ease in complete suspension of their mental faculties.
But let us tell you one more of our conclusions from long years of study. No Aether Motor or Converter will ever arise from minds bound by neurosis or psychosis. Serendipity is not the chance of kicking the right stone. Serendipity, if it were the only mother of invention, is an affair of the prepared mind - not the willy nilly of 'experimentalism'. It might strike by chance, but does not stick by chance. From where we stand, it can only be laughable to imagine that - without the tools of aetherometry and a good understanding of it - someone could put together an Aether-powered EV that could run indefinitely. The Great Tesla himself never succeeded in developing his vision of an Aether Motor beyond a primitive stage. Yes, we have laughed many times about that apocryphal story of Tesla that keeps getting passed around - of an EV powered by an Aether Motor that employed vacuum tubes. The fact is that Tesla - even though well cognizant of the fact that there is a form of longitudinal electric radiation which is distinct from electromagnetism and whose wavespeeds are not bound by c - could not determine the basic functions of this new form of energy. And the fact is that Reich's work continued Tesla's and laid the foundations for those determinations. Classical electrodynamics and electromagnetic theory cannot account for these new (to this day new!) physical phenomena for the simple reason that those classical or neo-classical approaches ignore virtually everything about massfree energy. That is precisely why we have written five monographs dedicated to the experimental and analytical separation of massfree and massbound charge fluxes in the functioning of the Tesla coil alone, and the problem of magnetism. Have you read them?
We do not believe you have read a word of anything we have published about our work differentiating massfree from massbound electricity. This knowledge does not spring from trees. And it cannot be mastered by the meek of spirit who have already inherited this earth! Without preparation - study, a proper understanding and adequate experimental tools - no one can resolve the series of problems facing any technological exploitation of aether energy. Yet, the Tilley car has been freely described as being powered by a Tesla Aether device by you and others, following the lead of one Sterling Allan:
However, undoubtedly the worst in the Tilley affair is the political religionist program of those who are behind this Tilley car. Without any second thoughts, you pass around information from this Sterling Allan - these great, great things... well, let us see some more of these gems, in particular those pertinent to the altruism of the whole schbang:
Who is Sterling Allan - apparently the first, and most vociferous, promoter of the Tilley technology?
[Here follows the information about Sterling Allen that appeared in the Sept 9 email to Gene Mallove, above]
As for Tilley - his website, though sorely lacking in anything which could be construed as intelligent information regarding his ostensive 'work', is, we note, mounted and managed by a debile fellow by the name of (...)
[Here follows the information about Tilley and his religious connections that appeared in the Sept 9 email to Gene Mallove, above]
Why is it that this is the only sort of concrete information one finds swirling around this whole affair? And precisely at a time when these people are openly preparing themselves for their own brand of Jihad? Not only are these fanatics doing malicious damage to the seriousness of the inquiry into the nature of the Aether, it is altogether possible that they have moved from such previously documented means of funding their operations as bank robberies - to using a free-energy scam to gain funding for a far more urgent cause - the upcoming battle against what they term the 'new world jewish order' (whether within or without the christian/gentile world). It seems only fitting that it was the ignorant Mr. Rothwell who wrote on Vortex regarding Tilley and the 'Patriot Saints' who are promoting him -
After all this, one can understand the debile mental state that these sensationalist events provoke:
If you intend to continue in this vein, you may as well remove us from your mailing list.
Thank you,
Paulo Correa, MSc, PhD
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Subject: Your Reply to Me Dated Thu, 03 Oct 2002
Dear Dr. Correa:
Dr. Andrew Michrowski first informed me about the Tilley situation in eMail messages Sept. 6th and 7th. I've discussed the matter of Tilley with Dr. Michrowski, as well as your Oct. 2nd reply to me, and the impression I received from him was that he was somewhat undecided on the efficacy of the Tilley device. That is now my current view, but I will continue to follow the Tilley project to the end to see what transpires empirically.
I am a true New Energy enthusiast, a sort of "Groupie". Regrettably, I'm not a scientist or engineer, and cannot make the kind of judgements you may think reasonable in evaluating claims of over-unity technology. That's why my skepticism of the O/U claimant is fairly lenient, and I refuse to "trash" the claimant or his work, as venomous skeptics like Eric Krieg, Dr. Robert Park, Gary Taubes, and even Dr. Michio Kaku are wont to do with their use of words like "sucker", "duped", and "deluded". At worst I'd say that a device probably did not work as claimed, and state the reasons for that.
Over-unity work is a deadly serious avocation with me because of the grave situation of Global Warming and rapid climate change, let alone newly-"extortionistic" electricity rates (relative to what we've been accustomed) for our people.
I hope you don't think that I concur with the "fundamentalistic" pseudo-"Christian" philosophy of Sterling Allan. I most certainly do not. In fact, his proselytizing annoys me. However, the extended information you gave me about him - his anti-Jewish stance etc. - is news to me.
In the process of being a volunteer "messenger" in New Energy, however, I ignore Allan's religiosity in the interest of getting the New Energy message out to the grass roots population. His "GreaterThings" web-site is a source of information on claims of over-unity devices, and for me, that's *all* it is. Some of it may be faulty, though, and I doubt if even *he* realizes that. I use whatever background I have to "separate the wheat from the chaff", and hope I'm giving only the "wheat" to the recipients of my eMail messages.
With particular reference to my Tilley-based message of Sept 20th, note that I was very cautious and conditional in my wording:
1. "Right now, I believe Tilley's car works as claimed", "Right now" indicating that I'd change my belief if new evidence warranted. Thus, no *blind* belief on my part.
2. "[I] am reserving my final opinion until all the evidence is in.", meaning that either I myself have observed in consultation with qualified others, or that qualified others have attested to having observed the device work as claimed.
3. "From what has been reported at the 'GreatThings' web-site", a reference to a source other than myself, informing the reader to judge *that other source*, not myself. I'd only be the "messenger".
4. "apparently electrostatic", indicating that I was correctly uncertain about the device's electrostatic nature.
5. "in which case it could be a close relative of early Tesla devices,...", "could be" indicating only a possibility, and still correctly communicating my uncertainty.
So the above attests that I made *no* statements that the Tilley device claims were factual, and that I was honest in everything I said. Please check my correspondence for corroboration.
If, as in the case of Tilley, I say I believe a device works as claimed, it is because I, in my less-educated state, have enough "witness testimony" from a Web-site or other source, for me to give the over-unity claimant the benefit of the doubt. For Tilley, it was said an engineer did some testing, and I was in no position to think him incompetent or deceptive. In your reply to me however, you informed me about battery voltages, and I appreciate that. My belief is tentative, and would change to the opposite when there is conclusive evidence showing a claimed over-unity device to be false. That's the healthy skepticism that even lay people like myself should have, where empirical evidence is sparse. It also includes presumption of innocence, *not* blind belief, and for me, it takes more than one piece of *hard* contrary or supporting evidence, such as battery voltage measurements alone, to believe categorically that a device cannot or must work as claimed, as the case may be. Rather, my view would be that of uncertainty.
Through the Internet, I research as many claims of over-unity energy development which I can. This includes your own over-unity work, for which I have the highest respect because they've been attested to work as claimed by qualified people like Eugene Mallove. Unfortunately, in my Internet travels, I would unwittingly be picking up instances of charlatanism and outright fraud on the part of some so-called inventors.
In any case, as you requested, I have removed your email address from my New Energy List, and you will not be receiving any more information from me.
I wish you the very best in your development of over-unity devices, and look forward to your receiving the financing needed to get production-level devices engineered and manufactured for distribution.
Please do not reply to this message unless it is done without chiding, chastizing, scolding, or disparaging me for whatever reason, and which I painfully sensed in your October 3rd reply.
Hal Ade.
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:25:36 -0600
Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa,
You are sadly mistaken about our reports on Tilley. In the publishing of New Energy News, we publish information, good or bad, about new-energy claims, demonstrations, etc. We have no reason to support or commend Tilley or anyone else who cannot provide a commercial new-energy product.
Contrary to your statement, I have listening to your lectures, have read all of your papers that you have had published. Unless I am mistaken, you have never submitted a technical paper to the J. of New Energy.
Our group has been searching the world for new-energy devices that meet our stringent requirements [3 times as much energy out as energy input; source of energy consistent with science (including tapping space energy); and inexpensive to build.] The projects that pass these requirements are deemed to have strong commercial potential. After 14 years of searching, we have found four that appear to have strong commercial potential. One of the most important (in our judgement) is the high-density, electron charge cluster technology (HDCC). Six patents have issued and we have obtained exclusive rights to these patents. For example, see U.S. Patent 5,018,180. (...)
I welcome information from you (and any others) on technical new- energy issues. However, please leave me off of your future religious discussions, that is not of interest to either New Energy News nor the Journal of New Energy.
Regards, Hal Fox, Ed. J. New Energy
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:34:54 -0400
Dear Hal _Fox,
Unfortunately, your mistake arose from the fact that our e-mail message was addressed to Hal Ade, not to Hal Fox - and that we simply responded back to Mr. Ade's mailing list recipients! We were not even aware of any Tilley coverage which you may or may not have provided in New Energy News!
This email is instead addressed to you but will follow to the same mailing list to ensure that there are no others recipients who might also be labouring under a similar error.
This should clarify all the statements that you took pains to respond to - since they were not directed at you. However, it is true that we have never submitted a technical paper to the J. of New Energy. Originally, Patrick
Bailey and Marinov invited Paulo to become one of the Journal editors, but we never heard back from either of them. By the way though, we do not believe you're correct in stating that you have read all of our papers. Have you, for example,read any of the Aetherometry Monographs?
Incidentally, we are quite sure that the energy source of our plasma technologies is not production of HDCCs.
We do concur that it is regretable to have to address the matter of fundamentalist extremism, but it is unfortunately an element that seems to so intimately and corrosively permeate even our own field these days - as witnessed ny Hal Ade's messages - that we can no longer ignore it.
Best regards to you and Mrs. Fox, and thank you for the wonderful time we had together in Berlin.
Paulo Correa, MSc, PhD
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:03:29 -0600
Dear Friends Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa,
Thank you for your kind email response to my error. We would like to have an article from you concerning your latest developments of your method of extracting energy.
You may be interested to know that there is an increasing amount of discussion concerning expanding the study of science to include human consciousness and survival after death. As we look back on the history of the tremendous scientific development we find that the big change came when the scientific community decided that science would be separate from gods, angels, devils, and demons and that explanations of new experimental results would be limited to real measurable physical (or chemical) processes. Also there came to be an acceptable definition of a scientific fact: My favorite is "The close agreement of a series of observations of the same phenomena." (...)
Admittedly, there has been an on-going, long-term effort by a variety of persons and groups to investigate human consciousness. However, very little of that investigation has been scientifically accomplished or accepted by the academically controlled scientific physics journals.
As the editor of the Journal of New Energy, the discussion is welcomed and encouraged. However, the Journal of New Energy has not taken a position in this intellectual discussion except to encourage it. In my judgement, there should be a series of definitions that provide a higher degrees of precision for the terms being used. For example, we need to communicate more precisely when using such words or phrases as the following: mind, human consciousness, life, death, life after death,communication between remote humans (telepathy), remote viewing,etc.
We would welcome thoughtful, precisely-worded, letters or short papers concerning your view (and that of the Ccs) of this interesting topic.
Best personal regards, Hal Fox, Ed. J. New Energy
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:59:27 -0700
Dear Alex and Paulo,
Not to divert you from your other pressing work, but what is this free energy battery charger (OmniCharger) claim on the "Evolved Technology" web site -- do you have any idea of who these people are?
http://www.EvolvedTechnology.com/
Is it possible that they have stolen from you, or that they have stumbled onto the circuitry or developed it from some other perspective -- or that they are complete frauds?
They are in Canada!
- Gene
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Subject: Re: Evolved technology
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:35:46 -0700
From: Eugene F. Mallove
Dear Alex and Paulo,
On 10/17/02 5:25 PM, Paluo Correa wrote:
We will have much more on this for you tomorrow - checking is ongoing. But
right now it looks like an unabated scam where ideas from others are stolen
and packaged without any substance. How did you come across this?
It may have been that in chasing down some references to Tilley or some such, this "Evolved Technology" site might have noted the upcoming demo in Nashville on their site. I think there is probably no direct relation between the groups. I think that is how I may have come upon it.
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Subject: Evolved
Fun with Evolved Technology (http://www.evolvedtechnology.com)
SUMMARY: To me, this operation looks like a total, unabashed scam. A highly admirable and entertaining one, but no less a scam for that. They make incredibly grandiose claims -- pages after pages of them -- but whenever one is just about to come down to the brass tacks, one lands either on a missing page, or a page under construction, or a schedule of fees which you'd have to pay to get the brass tack supplied to you. It is impossible to find out any detail of their technology, or who makes the putative technology, or who works for the company, or who manages it. It is also impossible to understand whether they claim to be making anything themselves, or just claim to be representing "companies" they've "found" and for which they are somehow soliciting investment. After one has waded through their website, besides having been thoroughly entertained, the only concrete conclusion one can come to as to their operation is that they sell Zap scooters via PayPal.
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* The first sentence after "Welcome" on the ET home page is
"Click Here for news on the Tilley Electric Car demonstration in Nashville, Tennesse on September 7th and updates on the developments since."
This, of course, immediately suggests that there is some intimate connection between Tilley and ET. And when one clicks on the link, one gets, sprinkled between standard clippings on Tilley's Sept 7 demo, little items like:
"Friday, October 11, 2002 - We [that's ET] are still waiting for news on the next demonstration of the Tilley Electric Vehicle. Carl Tilley said that he is still leaning towards doing cross America drive (about 2400 miles) with two vehicles and may include a simultaneous demonstration in other locations with electric golf carts and electric bicycles. When we [ET again] have a firm date we will inform everyone that has signed up for email updates [heh heh]. Private demonstrations of the DeLorean are available by special reservation." [as if they were available via ET] "
"Friday, September 13, 2002 - ET spoke with Mr. Tilley this morning and he is considering accepting our challenge to do a cross America tour later this month with 2 modified electric cars (the DeLorean and a Toyota SUV). The cars will be driven without re-charging or re-fueling. They will be powered exclusively by their internal onboard battery chargers. This will be followed by a full battery of testing on the West Coast. We should have a definite answer from Mr. Tilley by Monday." [They never posted the definitive answer]
In vain, however, does one search to find any concrete connection between ET and Tilley. They simply hijacked the info and made themselves look like a PR and demo agency for Tilley.
* So what do they do/make/sell? Well, whatever it is, they right away tell you it's exciting:
"There are many exciting things taking place at ET. For the past 5 years we have been focused on searching the world for advanced technologies in the fields of energy, transportation, health and environmental remediation. We have now identified close to 150 unique advanced technologies and the list is growing every day. However, now we are focusing on deploying these technologies one by one."
So they have searched, they have identified, and now they are "focusing on deploying". You want some more of the same? Here is some more:
"The world is changing with dynamic momentum towards a future of unlimited possibilities. Evolved Technology is a world leader in finding [a world leader in FINDING!!!] the technologies that will help make this future possible. After searching the planet for the past 5 years we have uncovered numerous technologies that will change the way we live, work and play. In the coming months and years we will be introducing the best of the best of what we have discovered. [...] In fact, some of the technologies are so advanced you might think you're living in a science fiction movie. However, please keep in mind that we are able to provide working demonstrations of ALMOST EVERYTHING listed on this website. Most of the technologies are in the advanced prototype stages and most of them are demonstrable. If you have ever wanted an opportunity to shape the future and make it a better place this is it! If you want to become a part of this evolving future please CONTACT US. We are currently forming strategic alliances with like minded companies and individuals, investors, manufacturers, distributors, humanitarians and other groups who want to be a part of the next big thing [who wouldn't?]."
So then they say:
"We have just negotiated a strategic alliance with one of the world's leading electric vehicles companies."
And as you look further through their site, it becomes clear that what they mean by "one of the world's leading elecric vehicle companies" is ZapWorld, a maker of electric scooters, and what they mean by "strategic alliance" is that ZapWorld has agreed to let the ET website sell Zap scooters (via PayPal, I may add).
"Together we will begin integrating several of our new energy and transportation technologies into a full line of products. ET's energy technology will help overcome the biggest limiting factor of electric vehicle sales - battery life. ET's innovative energy technologies will be integrated into electric vehicle products to help overcome this barrier. The first models will increase battery life substantially. Future models will act as an on-board battery charger so that the consumer will no longer need to find a battery charging station for their electric vehicles."
But if you think that you're just about to learn anything concrete, you are bitterly wrong. After this little bit of titillation, you are informed that
"We are currently working on the following to achieve the above goals: 1) We are creating an online catalogue with a full range of electric products. 2) We are negotiating with other strategic partners for production and manufacturing of our other technologies [other than what? they haven't yet mentioned a single technology that was "theirs", unless they mean Zap scooters, which are "theirs" to sell via PayPal] as well as developing relationships with new inventors. 3) We are negotiating with investors who want to be a part of the coming Technological Revolution and help develope our other technologies."
So they are creating catalogues, developing relationships, and negotiating. And through this, they will usher in the Future. But don't despair. There is on the website a button called "Technology". When you go there, you get a mind-blowing list of technologies -- everything you've ever dreamed of:
"The OmniCharger™ is a portable hand-held battery charger. It is approximately 64 cubic inches in size (4" X 4" X 4") which makes it just a little larger than a Rubik'scube. The device is designed to operate like a standard battery charger in every way with one significant difference. The difference is that it is a stand-alone unit that is self-powered. It does not require an outside power source and it does not require fuel."
Then follows their standard formula -- standard, that is, for those technologies that don't say "Content is being added to this page":
"The OmniCharger™ has undergone several generations of development and is currently in the advanced prototype stage."
"The Research and Development has been completed. The technology is now ready for final production prototyping and testing. This requires that we know the power output requirement so that the power setting can be tuned to the desired level and then the final product molding and design will be completed. The estimated time required is under six months with a focused effort. A continued research and development program would allow the development of the technology for additional applications."
"Evolved Technology requires investment capital to begin full deployment of the technology around the world. The technology may also be purchased outright and developed by investors. Fully operational demonstration units are available and can be demonstrated to serious investors."
There is a little animated icon that says: "Click to see video". The icon is not clickable.
Here is a description of "Newton". I am quoting it in full because it is so utterly sweet:
"Newton™ is an unconventional alternative energy technology that can be implemented immediately at a very low cost to consumers. NewtonTM is a mechanical motor that uses a proprietary system to produce torque which can then be attached to a generator to produce electrical power."
"A completed device capable of powering an average home would be 12' X 12' X 5' in size, would weigh several hundred pounds and cost a couple of thousand dollars. The machines can be scaled up or down depending on the application and the power requirements. Even small communities of several thousand people can be powered by a single machine of sufficient size."
"The beautiful thing about this technology is that it is so simple that most engineers would be able to reproduce the machine on their own after watching a short instructional video. It uses conventional and easily available materials that are available everywhere. Developing countries as well as developed countries would be equally capable of producing the devices immediately."
"There are numerous alternative energy technologies that are able to generate much more power with a smaller unit at an even lower cost but they are typically much more complex, require more R&D and will take very large financial backing to launch on a global scale without being shut down by special interest groups with vested interests in conventional energy sources. This technology has the greatest potential for success of any alternative. It is unstoppable. It is ready almost immediately and there can be thousands of working units in every country around the world within 90 days."
"This is an ideal technology for any humanitarian group that may want to make a big contribution to society or it could also be a complimentary technology to a more advanced, alternative energy device. This is the ultimate technology for Humanitarians that are really committed to getting abundant clean and cheap energy out to the world."
This one has a clickable button that says "Click to See a Working Model". What you see when you click, however, is not a working model of Newton, but the following text:
"Fully operational prototypes of several technologies are available for demonstration. Please inquire for availability. Demonstrations can be viewed by video or in person. Demonstrations by video do not require a commitment. In-person demonstrations do require a commitment in the form of an earnest deposit that will be credited towards the purchase of the technology. We guarantee performance on all demonstrations. Fifteen to sixty days advanced booking is required for all demonstrations. Please contact us for more information."
But talking about demonstrations: the pages that purport to describe an investable technology, such as the OmniCharger and Newton, sport links to a Non Disclosure Agreement, a document called General Information on Demonstrations, and another called Technology Purchase Policies and Procedures. Sometimes there is also a link to a Business Plan. (...)
To continue with Technologies: Under "Solar Electric Power Cells", one reads:
"... in 1994, ET found an Breakthrough Solar Electric Power Cell that was being developed that could reach a theoretical efficiency of 72% and would cost under $200 per square meter. This is more than 15 times more efficent and more than 15 times less expensive than what is currently available. Details are available on their website http://www.ardev.com/ and more will be published on this site soon."
However, when one goes to the ardev.com website, one finds that it does not exist.
I bet you'd like to know what is under "Space Tourism". Well, here goes:
"In 2001 the age of space tourism began. The first round-trip ticket sold for $20 million US. People are now starting to line up for the opportunity to be next. A number of companies are also gearing up to offer more affordable vacation packages. Some as low as $2 million. Using ET's advanced propulsion technology we will be able to further reduce the cost of going into space to the point that most households will be able to afford a weeks vacation in space sooner than you think. The opportunities for entrepreneurs are endless. Space hotels, lunar tours, lunar mining, advanced material manufacturing and many other opportunities will soon become available. ET's third generation advanced propulsion craft has been completed and may be flown. Please contact us for more information."
These guys are also as effluviuosly generous with general pedagogy as they are miserly when it comes to details of "their" technologies. For example, several of the technology pages have links that say "Click here for the history of energy" -- and indeed, you get a history of energy. The "Space Tourism" page has a link that says "Click here for the history of aviation". And indeed, you get a history of aviation.
One of my personal favorites is that they have a button called "Add Your Technology to This Website". It doesn't matter what you get when you click on that button; I just love the very idea. But if you must know, here's what you get:
"Evolved Technology is actively seeking innovative new technologies in the fields of energy, transportation, health and environmental remediation. If you have a technology that fits into this category or if you know someone who does then please let us know. We have a dedicated network that is focused on helping to develope new technologies from all stages of development. Our support team consists of physicists, mechanical and electrical engineers, machinists, rapid prototyping experts, material experts as well as full marketing and business development team and investors. THIS FORM IS TEMPORARILY NOT AVAILABLE. PLEASE CONTACT US BY EMAIL."
* Another item on the website is called "Products". The "Products" page lists an impressive range of categories: electric products, environmental products, books, videos, and "Other Products". However, with the exception of "electric products", the categories are all represented by empty web pages. Now under "electric products", the page is by no means empty, but is populated by a mouth-watering array of pictures: electric sports cars, electric four-door sedans, electric pickup trucks, electric tow vehicles, electric delivery vans. When you click on an image, you get a "Product Specifications" chart and a large yellow animated button that says "Buy Now". However, in most cases the specifications chart is mostly blank, and when you try to "buy now", you get a page that says:
"This product has not yet been integrated into our online processing centre."
My favorite not-yet-integrated product is The Converted Electric Volkswagon Beetle (that's right, with an "o").
So what do these ETs actually sell? Here it is:
"We are currently seeking investors for some of our technologies. We offer several investment options. You could
I should mention, for you full pleasure, that although the word CALL is in VERY large type, nowhere do they provide a phone number.
The cheapest of these becomings, that of ET Representative, costs $995 but they are offering it "online for $549 for the next 10 positions". If you go for it, you also get a free Zappy electric scooter.
For dealership becomings, they have 2 classes available:
You are perhaps wondering how one can acquire a car dealership from a company that doesn't actually sell any cars. Well, as it turns out, you don't actually acquire it from ET; you acquire it from "one of [their] affiliated companies (www.Voltage Vehicles.com). The price tag is $50,000 to $75,000.
About exclusive territory rights, they say the following:
"We offer exclusive sales territories for some of our technologies. Territories are available by City, State, Province, Country or Worldwide. CONTACT US NOW to get started."
The finders fee is described by a 3-page legal agreement. It uses the Lehman formula (5% for the first million, 4% for the second million, and so on) with a $10 million ceiling.
Ah, I almost forgot the button called "Documents". In the "General" category, this contains links to "The World of Free Energy" by Peter Lindemann, and two links to "anonymous" documents produced by ET itself. One, called "A New Frontier in Technology", starts thusly:
"ET has found a company that has made substantial progress toward developing a technology for control of gravitation and they are ready to begin a three-phased development program, the successful completion of which will lead to a revolution in physics, transportation, construction and industry."
It proceeds to not provide any details, but to paint a glorious vision of the future, encouraging the reader to come up with a serious investment. The other one is called "What Will YOU Do When the Big One Hits?" It clarifies that by "the Big One" they mean any of the possible disasters that might at any moment hit any of us, such as, for example, asteroids, tidal waves or nuclear explosions. Then it proceeds:
"In your dreams you've probably seen yourself escaping these 'worst-case scenarios' somehow. But that's why they call them 'dreams', right? Maybe not. Evolved Technology is currently working with a company with an alternative technology that could get you out, even if the killer asteroid were on final approach and you were sitting at the center of the impact zone. What is it? A new type of propulsion unlike anything seen before, except in sci-fi films."
"Incredible? Yes, but the inventor is an academically trained physicist with a long career, many accomplishments in industry, numerous publications credits, and a listing in Who's Who."
And it encourages the reader to come up with a serious investment.
In the category "Scientific Papers" one finds 50-odd links to various papers, 35 of which are authored (or co-authored) by Puthoff (sometimes with Haisch), one by Little, and 18 by Bearden.
The category "Patents" is a list of 4 items. One says "Motionless Electromagnetic Generator, and 3 say "Coming Soon". None are clickable.
In vain does one search on the ET website for any names of people who form the personnel of ET. They have a button called "Board", but when one clicks on it, one gets an error. However, one of the items on a page calls "News" (and the only one containing concrete info) is:
"Feb. 17 & 23 ET's Founder and CEO will be appearing on Evolving Ideas with Elaine Smitha to discuss Project Spark Foundation."
When one goes to the Elaine Smitha Page, one finds that the person who appeared on the show to discuss Project Spark Foundation was Grant Romundt. A Google search on Grant Romundt brings up 2 pages at http//home.earthlink.net/projectspark -- one that looks like it used to be a personnel listing, and the other like it used to a bio of Romundt. Both are extinct. No extant mention of Romundt, or any other personnel at either Project Spark or Evolved Technology, seems to exist.
However, Grant Romundt is listed on the German website for the Freedom Ship as the Toronto contact for the ship. (Note below that his stated address in the ET domain registry entry is in Beverly Hills, CA).
The registry entry for the domain evolvedtechnology.com lists 2 contacts, both of which share the same hotmail email account and -- in spite of the fact that one is in CA and the other in BC -- the same phone number:
Billing Contact -
Technical Contact-
The phone number that they share is registered to:
Burck Frank
My favorite button on the ET webpage is "International Contacts". When you click on it, it brings up a map of the world with differently-colored clickable regions to choose from. It says "Click on a colored region to find a local ET office". The regions to choose from are: USA, Canada, Latin America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, Australia, India, Middle East, and Asia. Clicking on "USA" yields this information:
"Our US Head Office is at:
(which is the same as Grant Romund's address in the registry)
"Email: USA@EvolvedTechnology.com
Email Addresses of our US Representatives:
whereas clicking on "Canada" yields:
"Our Canadian Head Office is at:
(which is -- you guessed it! -- the same as Andy Manis's address in the registry)
"Email Addresses of our Canadian Representatives:
Clicking on Africa, Latin America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Australia, India, Middle East, or Asia gives you, mutatis mutandis:
"Our African Offices are not yet open. We are currently in the process of setting up our international offices and representatives. Please contact us if you are interested in joining our growing team.
Email Addresses of our African Representatives:
[I love this "All other nearby countries"].
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:35:45 -0500
Dear Gene,
How utterly ridiculous that Hal Ade continues to give this creep Sterling Allen coverage - laurels for having pioneered the introduction of the amazing Tilley 'miracle' and now for leading the fraud charge assault against Tilley. You may recall the letter we sent Ade last October regarding the patently obvious scam both Sterling Allen and Tilley were engaged in (...), debunking the Tilley claims. But to this, Hal Ade's response was - no, not to give it any thought whatsoever, but rather to "trust the witnesses" (just what people like Greer also rely on) (...). This was no loss from our point of view, given the general idiocies of his missives, but it is highly instructive as to what any serious research faces in face of both the incessant scammers and the public's desire to blindly believe. Also note how Rothwell was so predisposed to believe and promote this scam. We think this letter should be made public.
Alex & Paulo
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Subject: Re: link exchange
On 2/7/03 5:49 AM, "Christy Frazier" wrote:
This is one man I definitely DO NOT want to link to!!! Let him link to us, if he wishes. Politely tell him no. He has some very nasty connections -- though he comes on "sweet" in a superficial sense.
- Gene
Hello,
I've added a link to your alternate energy related website, specifically
featuring your newsletter, https://www.infinite-energy.com/
from
Perhaps you would consider a reciprocal link.
Sterling D. Allan
From:
http://wsmv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1301610&nav=1TcRG7u7
The I-Team told you in February 2003 that Carl Tilley had convinced people to invest a total of half a million dollars in a device he says can power things like an electric car, without having to recharge the batteries.
Two former business associates questioned whether the device worked as Tilley said, and told the I-Team and state regulators that Tilley made misrepresentations to his stockholders.
On May 29th, investigators from the Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance raided the Tilley complex. Tennessee's securities division regulates how stocks are sold and handles complaints from consumers.
(Daphne Smith, Assistant Commissioner of Securities) "A search warrant was executed yesterday, as an assist to the securities division, and our investigation of the Tilley Foundation and Carl Tilley. The search warrant was executed by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation."
Neighbors tell the I-Team they saw the TBI move in with two flatbed trucks and haul off Tilley's electric DeLorean, his electric boat and an electric ATV, along with box after box.
Tilley wouldn't talk on camera on the advice of his attorney, Hank Fenture. Fenture told Channel 4 they had offered to co-operate with the Department of Commerce and Insurance months ago, and they felt the warrant was totally unnecessary.
Tilley hired a second lawyer, Jack Lowery, after the raid. Lowery tells the I-Team, "Tilley is a hardworking man who has made no misrepresentations."
Lowery tells the I-Team the state told Tilley they plan run tests on his inventions. Tilley has never let outsiders run independent tests, or even see the inner workings of what he calls the magic box.
(Carl Tilley, February) "We can show you how the device works, but we can't show you the actual device because of trade secrets that we are trying to maintain."
Now, those secret inventions could become evidence against Carl Tilley.
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From http://www.tilleyfoundation.com/htm/Tennessean_6_15_04.htm
A Smith County man says his livelihood has been hijacked by state investigators.
That livelihood includes Carl Tilley's business records, a 1981 stainless-steel-skinned DeLorean automobile and a mysterious "opaque metal box" that holds a secret, hyperefficient device that reportedly runs on its own electrical fumes, drastically extending battery life on electric cars, electric all-terrain vehicles and electric fences.
And Tilley wants it all back.
He has gone to U.S. District Court with a lawsuit that demands the return of property seized during a state raid on his Smith County compound.
He argues that he has been a victim of unreasonable search and seizure by TBI agents and by investigators from the securities division of the state's Department of Commerce and Insurance.
The state, according to public records, surmises that reported stock offerings in the Tilley Foundations - offerings that bank on the success of a secret, unpatented gizmo - are frauds. In May 2003, agents breached the walls of Tilley's well-guarded acreage and executed a search warrant.
They carted off 62 items, according to search warrant returns. That includes bank statements, stock certificates, photographs, letters, files, electric bills, an electric all-terrain vehicle, an electric Toyota and an electric DeLorean.
Affidavits also shed light on what the agents were seeking more than a year ago: evidence in the alleged sale of unregistered securities in violation of state law.
Tilley's suit acknowledges the state's suspicions, but it pointedly denies the implications: that the agents were acting on "erroneous, incomplete and unreliable information" when they began investigating reports that Tilley and his foundation had "wrongfully sold securities and/or that the Plaintiffs had unlawfully profited from any allegedly illegal sales," the federal complaint states.
Agents had interviewed some of Tilley's former business partners and reviewed his marketing materials. They visited his Web site, www.tilleyfoundation.com.
They also have tracked down people who have invested in Tilley's ideas, court records show.
Those interviews caused agents to believe that "Tilley has been selling stock issued by the Tilley Foundation to raise capital to develop and market an alternative energy device that can power automobiles, homes, shops and various devices without any further need for fuel or some other energy source."
"The stock has been sold in $5,000 units," the agents swore in affidavits. They suspect that Tilley has obtained more than $400,000 from approximately 30-40 investors. The agents contend that Tilley had not registered such stock issues with the Department of Commerce and Insurance.
Still, despite the state's year-old allegations, no one has been charged in the case, Tilley's suit points out.
His Cookeville-based attorney has previously written the state contending that those who informed on Tilley were unreliable and mistaken.
Yet Henry Fincher promised that his client would cooperate fully with the state as it probed the allegations, court records show.
The state Department of Commerce and Insurance could not comment on the suit or the investigation, according to its spokeswoman Paula Wade.
Beth Denton, a TBI spokeswoman, said the TBI's participation in the search of Tilley's property was only in support of another agency's inquiry.
And Tennessee's attorney general's office, which will represent the state in the suit, has yet to file a response to the formal complaint in court.
So the Tilley material sits somewhere in state custody.
Fincher has pleaded with the state not to let the miraculous cat out of the bag by disclosing whatever trade secrets may be contained inside the metal box.
And he is asking federal court for a jury trial and undisclosed damages based on his charges that Tilley's constitutional rights have been violated in the course of Tennessee's fraud investigation.
The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge William J. Haynes.
Rob Johnson can be reached at 664-2162 or rhjohnson@tennessean.com.
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